Stone (05-30-2020)
I don't see anyone here NOT blaming the cops. The Probable Cause Report is what we've been discussing
in a pretty civil manner all night (until this morning). Lot of folks jumping in right now who haven't bothered to
read through the entire thread, get context, watch the videos and read the Probable Cause Report.
Last edited by Stretch; 05-30-2020 at 10:45 AM.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Stone (05-30-2020)
It does but there’s two carotid arteries. I don’t see how one knee could block both of them.
But during carotid endarterectomy the operative side is purposefully and temporarily occluded to allow and incision to be made in the artery and the arterial plaque to be removed. I’ve seen it blocked off for as long as an hour without doing any damage to the patient.
It’s suboptimal, but the brain can get adequate perfusion from one carotid artery. I can see Floyd having something like a stroke after what happened to him but I don’t understand how it could have killed him—from that.
Btw, Bartender loves it when I talk medical stuff lol.
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
Stretch (05-30-2020)
Phantasmal (05-30-2020)
Again.........go back, slow down, read the entire thread of a very decent ongoing conversation that began last night.
Watch the videos, read the Probable Cause Report and all the posters' comments. It's been pretty civil.
EVERYONE here agrees on the cops' disgusting actions. So, no fight to be had in here on THAT.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Which would you prefer. Them to get arrested fast and the charges not stick or them get arrested later and the charges stick? I'd prefer if people that actually get arrested have their charges stick. I'm pretty sure on the cop who knelled on Floyd's neck for an extended period of time committed a crime. I'm less sure about the rolls of the other three cops.The extent of their rolls in Floyd's death needs more investigation. If the investigation implicates them then indict and trial them.
Darth Omar (05-30-2020)
Guno צְבִי (05-30-2020), ThatOwlWoman (05-30-2020)
christiefan915 (05-30-2020), Guno צְבִי (05-30-2020), ThatOwlWoman (05-30-2020)
It did not show asphyxiation either. He had underlying cardiac issues. He complained twice while standing up
that he was having trouble breathing, he was loudly vocal about being in pain and trouble with breathing while
on the ground. His voice never trailed off or gasped for air..........it was in an instant that all life left his body.
When paramedics arrived they could not revive him.
So, whether it's arteries, blood flow, oxygen deprivation in the blood flow, a clot, a stroke...........yet to be seen.
It all just seems cardiovascular-related.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Compressing the carotids and their carotid bodies can send a person into Asystole [a type of cardiac event]. I have seen in happen in controlled situations in the hospital setting. If you occlude both carotids the heart eventually will slow to a stop.
A MI [heart attack] is another type of a cardiac event. The heart tissue shows evidence of lack of oxygen and tissue death. Floyd's heart apparently did not show evidence or it would have been specifically mentioned in the autopsy. If Floyd's carotids were occluded it would have no effect on oxygenation of his heart. It would just effect his brain.
Then keep snarking instead of joining in with a bunch of people who have already seen the videos
and read the report who are more versed in what is going on. A lot of people gave very good informed points of view
with some normal give and take of course. But, at least their points of view were based on the facts presented in the
first 2 pages.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
It never ends....EVER. The grievance line is long,.....at the end of the rainbow there is ALWAYS someone holding a hand out. Its too bad it has to be that way. A man died, thats a bad thing. Never good to use a bad thing for more bad. Nothing any good ever comes out of it when approached that way.....
Stretch (05-30-2020)
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