Earl (05-30-2020)
Earl (05-30-2020)
Last edited by Port Tack; 05-30-2020 at 06:21 AM.
Earl (05-30-2020)
christiefan915 (05-30-2020)
Well with the additional video there is a tremendous amount of context that was missing when ALL you saw was the cop with the knee on his neck.
Here is a good rule of thumb in medicine. If someone can talk, they can breathe. Just saying. Typically people who can't breathe, also can't talk. So while I am not condoning the actions of the police officer what we know is that up until George collapses there was ZERO wrong with that the officers did
We also know from physiology, that if the officer were kneeling on his neck with force sufficient enough to stop him from breathing he would not be able to talk. It is physically impossible.
Based on the new video and the autopsy, George likely was suffering from a heart attack, and went into a cardiac arrhythmia and died.
Could the officers have handled things differently? Definitely. Could they be accused of negligence? Most probably. Was it murder? Not from what I see.
The real questions are
1) Was George chinese virus positive?
2) Why wasn't George socially distancing?
3) Why wasn't George wearing a mask?
Earl (05-30-2020), Life is Golden (05-30-2020)
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christiefan915 (05-30-2020)
You people need an anatomy and physiology lesson. If blood flow were cut off for that long he would have passed out. Four minutes without sufficient oxygen to the brain and you die. If the flow is cut off completely, you lose consciousness in 10 seconds
The fact that they were leaning on him for 8 minutes and he was STILL talking tells me that they were not using a tremendous amount of force
Now, that does not mean that they should have kept him on the ground for 8 minutes. It doesn't mean they were negligent. But people saying they "caused" his heart attack are completely full of shit and don't know what they are talking about.
It isn't the heart attack that kills you. It is the resulting arrhythmia due to a lack of blood flow from the clogged artery.
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Charoite (05-30-2020)
morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.
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Stretch (05-30-2020)
morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.
Trump Wins,
by definition https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/trump
Stretch (05-30-2020)
The autopsy will determine the cause of death. In 2006 we had a similar incident involving a 14 year old black child named Martin Anderson. It appeared that the guards killed him during an altercation.
On March 12, Anderson's body was exhumed and a second autopsy was conducted by the coroner of Hillsborough County, Dr. Vernard Adams.[11] This time, the autopsy was attended by several other forensic pathologists as consultants to Dr. Adams. Dr. Michael Baden, New York State Police coroner, attended at the request of Anderson's parents and the NAACP.FDLE officials announced that Anderson's autopsy ruled out "trauma or injury" as the cause of his death.
The official cause of death was not reported for another five weeks. In mid-February, Bay County Medical Examiner Charles F. Siebert announced that his first autopsy of Anderson determined that the teen died of complications from sickle cell trait, a normally benign and relatively common condition among African Americans.
So we will have to wait. But it does appear the cops over reacted and caused his death.Dr. Adams found:
1) Martin Anderson had sickle cell trait.
2) The repeated blows to Martin Anderson's limbs and the gripping of his limbs left several bruises
but did not contribute to his death. In other words, he was not beaten to death.
3) Martin Anderson's death was caused by suffocation due to actions of the guards at the boot camp.
The suffocation was caused by manual occlusion of the mouth, in concert with forced inhalation of
ammonia fumes that caused spasm of the vocal cords resulting in internal blockage of the upper airway.
Vernard I. Adams, M.D.
Chief Medical Examiner
Blackwater Lunchbreak (05-30-2020)
My wife says the knee killed him, I ask how do u know how much pressure he is using. She than said well u cant do that without putting a lot on his neck
So i went and got a big ripe tomato out of the fridge
I am 6'2 230.... i put the tomato on floor and put my knee on it
Guess what it didn't smash, and while I was doing it I asked her if she could tell how much pressure i was using ...she said no...I SAID BINGO
morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.
Trump Wins,
by definition https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/trump
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Jack (05-30-2020)
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