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    George Floyd family enlists Dr. Michael Baden to perform second autopsy

    The family of George Floyd, the Minneapolis man who died shortly after he was arrested by police officers on suspicion of passing a counterfeit $20 bill, has retained prominent forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden to perform an independent autopsy.

    Baden, a former New York City chief medical examiner, confirmed to Fox News Friday that the Floyd family had asked him to perform the autopsy and said he would travel to Minneapolis Saturday. Baden added that he would discuss his findings early next week.

    An official autopsy revealed nothing to support strangulation as the cause of death, concluding that the combined effects of being restrained, potential intoxicants in Floyd’s system and his underlying health issues, including heart disease, likely contributed to his death.

    Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is representing Floyd's family, said Friday that talk of a heart condition or asthma was irrelevant because Floyd was walking and breathing before his contact with police.
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    I don't think that Atty. Crump saw the video. Floyd was clearly having trouble standing and breathing. He told cops while
    he was standing with them that he was having a hard time breathing. His legs also gave out on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    then why are millions of Black and Brown people in jail before being found guilty of a crime?
    Where are these people being held? I suspose serving life sentences in FEMA internment camps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Video #1
    I finally found a video of events preceding the video of George Floyd on the street being held down by the 3 cops.
    Three people come out of his car and are led to the sidewalk for questioning. Floyd looks a little unsteady.
    Two cops walk him across the street to another cop car where his legs give way and he collapses. (see Video #2 next)

    The answer is:

    Homicide

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    Those cops never even called for an ambulance until Floyd went silent (either passed out or deceased at that point!!!). Like I said earlier,
    they should have called the paramedics in the 1st minute they had him on the ground while he was distressed, in pain and having breathing problems.
    Outrageous! These guys better be locked up forever!

    And, I still don't get why none of the onlookers filming this did not call 911 either early on!!!!!!!



    Floyd ended up pinned to the ground by Officer Derek Chauvin.

    On bystanders’ video, Floyd complains of pain and of not being able to breathe as Chauvin keeps a knee on his neck. Onlookers are heard urging Chauvin to let him up.

    Floyd then goes silent. Police said in their statement this week that officers “noted (Floyd) appeared to be suffering medical distress” and called an ambulance. He was declared dead at a hospital a short time later.
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/...tes-following/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Those cops never even called for an ambulance until Floyd went silent (either passed out or deceased at that point!!!). Like I said earlier,
    they should have called the paramedics in the 1st minute they had him on the ground while he was distressed, in pain and having breathing problems.
    Outrageous! These guys better be locked up forever!

    And, I still don't get why none of the onlookers filming this did not call 911 either early on!!!!!!!



    Floyd ended up pinned to the ground by Officer Derek Chauvin.

    On bystanders’ video, Floyd complains of pain and of not being able to breathe as Chauvin keeps a knee on his neck. Onlookers are heard urging Chauvin to let him up.

    Floyd then goes silent. Police said in their statement this week that officers “noted (Floyd) appeared to be suffering medical distress” and called an ambulance. He was declared dead at a hospital a short time later.
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/...tes-following/
    the kops never called for a ambulance the by standers did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    You know nothing like that. You do not even know if he passed a counterfeit 20. Nor does any past history excuse a cop from killing him.
    I was speaking from a right wing point of view


    I was being sarcastic

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    the kops never called for a ambulance the by standers did
    Well, they sure waited long enough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    And, I still don't get why none of the onlookers filming this did not call 911 either early on!!!!!!!
    You call 911, the operator sees that there are police already on the scene, and tell the police who you are, the police arrest you for calling 911. Kind of pointless.

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    Watched the vid from this
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    about 10 minutes long.
    Sure looks like murder to me.
    I see no way Chauvin walks.

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