Heart attack or asphyxiation?

[Minister of Truth]

Ah, well, I still found the pyrotechnics to be entertaining.

[cancel2 2022]

This sort of speculation can be cleared-up with the coroner's report.

https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmat...Pkejwvv8-9RvEw

[Charoite]

Apparently none of the sympathizers of a rotten cop know what a strain on your heart having the blood vessels and windpipe in your neck compressed and blocked off can cause. These people need to stop trying to excuse murder before their humanity gets fully pissed away. The cop will more than likely get off easy and wrong will be done again. Lawless chaos will erupt since law, order, and justice are shown broken once again. These protests will greatly intensify at the worst possible times.

[Stone]

I've never called a cop "a pig" in my life, but I'm doing it now!
Chauvin is a pig. While restraining Floyd on the ground he taunted Floyd by
mocking him and saying "get up!!! get up!!!" knowing full well he was unable to.
He's a sadistic piece of work!

MMMMMMMM,....I hear you,..BUT... I cant tell you how many times I have seen people fake having heart attacks or other medical conditions when getting arrested because they think it will help them avoid jail just by watching episodes of COPS or LIVE PD. Now imagine being an actual cop and think about how many times they have seen that ploy. They probably become so conditioned that they think everyone is faking. Gotta admit,... I can easily understand that. Having said all that.......still doesnt make it right. Are they guilty of murder? Nope,... not IMO, but....they are surely guilty of terrible negligence because without that negligence that man would stand a very good chance of being alive today...

[Jack]

I knew people would get the wrong idea. Please! The entire 4 cops handling this are reprehensible.
I'm merely pointing out things coming to light in videos and the report. And, there are "no physical findings
that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation".

I see 4 cops in a squatting position along the entire length of Floyd's body. Since there are no signs of physical
trauma to the neck area plus the signs he did present, I'm just saying it looks like a cardiac event.
Maybe newer evidence is yet to come. Maybe another doctor will be brought in to get another opinion. I don't know.
I'm posting a couple of videos and the Probable Cause Statement.

Thanks, Stretch.
You've posted some information for others to see. More informative than what the News has posted and the automatic "The Cops killed him".

[Jack]

I've never called a cop "a pig" in my life, but I'm doing it now!
Chauvin is a pig. While restraining Floyd on the ground he taunted Floyd by
mocking him and saying "get up!!! get up!!!" knowing full well he was unable to.
He's a sadistic piece of work!

Was the "Get up!" a Police command? Was it made to make it look like the Suspect was 'resisting arrest' by trying to get up?

[Stone]

So in other words the media did it again.....They reported half the facts in a rush to judgement, got people all worked up, helped to cause a riot, which in turn gave them even more stories to report on. And people wonder why we call it FAKE NEWS....

[Stretch]

This sort of speculation can be cleared-up with the coroner's report.

The statement of probable cause in in post #5
And, you can see Floyd collapse from a standing position in the video.

[Stretch]

Was the "Get up!" a Police command? Was it made to make it look like the Suspect was 'resisting arrest' by trying to get up?

No. Chauvin was taunting him while he was lying down and wasn't physically able to get up.

[Stretch]

Here it shows everything I've been describing.
Floyd's breathing is heavy and labored, he calls out loudly though with a strong voice in pain......then suddenly stops....no sounds of gasping for air...his heart just stops.

Viewer warning. Graphic material!

[cancel2 2022]

Apparently none of the sympathizers of a rotten cop know what a strain on your heart having the blood vessels and windpipe in your neck compressed and blocked off can cause. These people need to stop trying to excuse murder before their humanity gets fully pissed away. The cop will more than likely get off easy and wrong will be done again. Lawless chaos will erupt since law, order, and justice are shown broken once again. These protests will greatly intensify at the worst possible times.

The coroners report says you're just full of shit, croc o' shit!

https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmat...Pkejwvv8-9RvEw

[cancel2 2022]

So in other words the media did it again.....They reported half the facts in a rush to judgement, got people all worked up, helped to cause a riot, which in turn gave them even more stories to report on. And people wonder why we call it FAKE NEWS....

I have seen the same shit going on over and over for many decades, never ever changes. The media is truly despicable.

[tsuke]

One thing I would like the police to do here if possible is with the families consent to let any other organization do an autopsy if they want to. The news media seem to say now that the language of the autopsy report is design to absolve guilt. To me it just sounds like normal medical language. The left will not be satisfied until someone on thier side does the autopsy.

[RB 60]

One thing I would like the police to do here if possible is with the families consent to let any other organization do an autopsy if they want to. The news media seem to say now that the language of the autopsy report is design to absolve guilt. To me it just sounds like normal medical language. The left will not be satisfied until someone on thier side does the autopsy.

Since the FBI is involved in this investigation, you'd think they would have their experts in on the autopsy as well as those examining witnesses and video. They can't screw this up.

[Darth Omar]

Yes it's possible. The autopsy should tell us whether or not and to what degree of full pressure was placed there
or if if the knee was over the area due just to the cops squatting position.
I only say that because Floyd continued with heavy breathing and calling out until a single instant where it
seemed that all life had left him...like a heart attack.

This makes more sense.

It would take considerable pressure on Floyd’s neck for his airway to be obstructed by the cops knee. In fact, I’m not convinced it can be done without giving the victim a bad neck injury—perhaps even separating the cervical vertebrae and breaking the victim’s neck.

The airway is in the middle of the neck and the cops knee was on the side of his neck. IMO, you would have to break someone’s neck [or nearly break it] to strangulate them in that manner.

Not that this in anyway let’s the cop[s] off the hook. It should have been plainly obvious that Floyd was in some kind of distress and they should have stopped but they didn’t.

The absurd/sad/predictable thing is all manner of conclusions have been jumped to over this before the facts came in. Including the assumption Floyd’s race had anything to do with it.