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    Transcripts of phone conversations between then-incoming White House national security adviser Michael Flynn and then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December 2016 were released Friday.

    The transcripts have long been sought by lawmakers because they reveal the contents of the phone calls between Flynn and Kislyak during the 2016 presidential transition period. Flynn pleaded guilty for making false statements to the FBI about his conversations with Kislyak, a plea he later sought to withdraw.

    Here’s what’s in the transcripts:

    Flynn made it clear that the “strategic goal” of the U.S.-Russia relationship was stability in the Middle East

    Flynn, in the series of phone calls, made it clear that Russia and the U.S. had a common interest in working toward peace in the Middle East.

    “You know the strategic goal is stability in the Middle East … between you and I, and we know this, and you know… and between Moscow and Washington, we will not achieve stability in the Middle East without working with each other against this radical Islamist crowd,” Flynn said in the Dec. 22, 2016, phone call.

    Kislyak later tells Flynn in a Dec. 29 phone call that Russia has “significant reservations” about the U.S. policy in the Middle East.

    “We wanted to convey to you and through you to the president elect that we had significant reservations about the idea of adopting now the principles for the Middle East that our American colleagues are pushing for. So we are not going to support it -- in the quartet or in the security council. And we have conveyed to our American colleagues. So in the spirit of full transparency I was asked to inform you as well,” Kislyak told Flynn.

    “I appreciate very much the, uh, reservations about the current administration’s position in the Middle East. That does not do anybody any good right now, with, I mean you know, ambassador, the situation with Hamas, and the Palestinian situation, I mean, we’ll come up with a solution that’s good for everybody,” Flynn later told Kislyak

    Flynn distanced the upcoming Trump administration from Obama

    Flynn appeared to try to distance the upcoming Trump administration from impending sanctions against Russia imposed by the outgoing Obama administration.

    “Do not allow this administration to box us in right now!” Flynn told Kislyak.

    “Depending on what actions they take over this current issue of the cyber stuff, you know, what they’re looking like they’re gonna, they’re gonna dismiss some number of Russians out of the country, I understand all that and I understand that, but what I would ask Russia to do is to not- if anything - because I know you have to have some sort of action - to only make it reciprocal. Make it reciprocal. Don’t make it -- don’t go any further than you have to. Because I don’t want us to get into something that has to escalate, you know, on a tit-for-tat. You follow me, Ambassador?” said Flynn.

    Kislyak says he understands what Flynn is saying but Flynn might appreciate the sentiments that are raging now in Moscow.

    Flynn said: "I very much appreciate it! But I really do not want us to get into the situation where we everybody going back and forth and everybody had to be a tough guy here. We don't need that right now. We need cool heads to prevail. And we need to be very steady about what we are going to do because we have absolutely a common threat in the Middle East."

    Flynn repeatedly urged Russia only to react to Obama sanctions on a “reciprocal” basis, no more

    Kislyak expressed anger to Flynn about sanctions over certain Russian cyber actors for interference in the 2016 election. “Does it mean the United States isn’t willing to work on terrorist threats?” the Russian ambassador asked Flynn.

    “Yeah, Yeah.” said the former national security adviser.

    “Because that’s the people who are exactly fighting the terrorists,” said Kislyak.

    Flynn repeatedly told the Russian ambassador that reciprocal action against the sanctions was a good message.

    “That is a good message and we’ll understand that message. And then, we know that we’re not going to escalate this thing where we, because if we put out, if we send out 30 guys and you send out 60, you know, or you shut down every embassy … let’s keep this at a level that is uh even-keeled, okay?” said Flynn.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wha...ranscripts-say

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    so much for Comey's/Yates CRAP that Flynn was acting in a nefarious manner to undermine/collude with Putin..
    He was trying to get the US and Russia to work together on their common interest of combating radical Islam..
    They destroyed a good man and destroyed US /Russian relations for their craven political desires

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    And this was a Logan Act violation?

    Give me a break.
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    ‘Not exculpatory’: Just-declassified transcripts prove Flynn lied – ‘he also betrayed America’

    Newly-declassified transcripts of intercepted telephone calls between Mike Flynn and then-Russia Ambassador Sergei Kislyak prove Trump’s soon-to-be National Security Advisor lied to federal investigators, and his original two guilty pleas were correct.

    They clearly show he was discussing U.S. sanctions then-President Barack Obama had imposed on Russia before Trump took office.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/not...rayed-america/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    And this was a Logan Act violation?

    Give me a break.
    indeed. but more then that this was the reason that Comey in the Obama/Rice/Yates/Biden meeting was saying not to brief Flynn.. (suspicious amount phone calls? I think was the term)
    Rice was suspicious because Flynn was more emphatic that China -not Russia was the biggest threat..
    Rice did brief but only cursory..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    ‘Not exculpatory’: Just-declassified transcripts prove Flynn lied – ‘he also betrayed America’
    ya we know Flynn lied to the VP -but we do NOT KNOW if he lied to the FBI since the 302's were rewriten
    and we still haven't seen the original (if they exist)
    ‘he also betrayed America’
    horse shit.
    He was trying to make sure cooler heads prevail in the hope that the US and Russia could find common ground on checking radical Islam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    ‘Not exculpatory’: Just-declassified transcripts prove Flynn lied – ‘he also betrayed America’

    Newly-declassified transcripts of intercepted telephone calls between Mike Flynn and then-Russia Ambassador Sergei Kislyak prove Trump’s soon-to-be National Security Advisor lied to federal investigators, and his original two guilty pleas were correct.

    They clearly show he was discussing U.S. sanctions then-President Barack Obama had imposed on Russia before Trump took office.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/not...rayed-america/
    What law prevents Flynn from discussing sanctions with his foreign counterpart.

    Cite the US Code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    ya we know Flynn lied to the VP -but we do NOT KNOW if he lied to the FBI since the 302's were rewriten
    and we still haven't seen the original (if they exist)
    horse shit.
    He was trying to make sure cooler heads prevail in the hope that the US and Russia could find common ground on checking radical Islam
    This kinds of throws cold water on ObamaGate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    This kinds of throws cold water on ObamaGate.
    It throws ice cold water on any pretext to interview Flynn.

    For anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    This kinds of throws cold water on ObamaGate.
    the jury is out on that.
    Why the multiple unmasking? ..but removing Flynn (etc) brought us the Russian Hoax and Cold War 2.0 w/Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    It throws ice cold water on any pretext to interview Flynn.

    For anything.
    Strzok and that other agent said as much..for some (deranged reason) Mueller went after Flynn.
    Perhaps to squeeze him? I think it was just another Andrew Weissmann hit job (the CEO of the Mueller probe)

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    New documents show Flynn told Russian ambassador not to escalate on sanctions

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/polit...ess/index.html

    The unmasking documents, which listed Trump's expected 2020 opponent former Vice President Joe Biden among more than three dozen officials, has been seized on by the President and the Trump campaign to accuse both Biden and former President Barack Obama of wrongdoing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    It throws ice cold water on any pretext to interview Flynn.

    For anything.
    Why, because Flynn is a fibber????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Strzok and that other agent said as much..for some (deranged reason) Mueller went after Flynn.
    Perhaps to squeeze him? I think it was just another Andrew Weissmann hit job (the CEO of the Mueller probe)
    That’s the whole point.

    It doesn’t matter that Flynn lied to whoever *about the interview*. The interview had no predicate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    so much for Comey's/Yates CRAP that Flynn was acting in a nefarious manner to undermine/collude with Putin..
    He was trying to get the US and Russia to work together on their common interest of combating radical Islam..
    They destroyed a good man and destroyed US /Russian relations for their craven political desires
    Drove the Russians into the arms of the Chinese is what they did.... and committed sedition.

    It almost does not get any worse than what Obama's people did to America.....we are going to be paying for this for a very long time.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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