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    Default WHO issues new mask guidelines (again)


    So, this is it folks. It's now multiple choice. Wear it, don't wear it, do or don't wear it if you're sick or healthy,
    do or don't wear it indoors or outdoors, etc. Who knows how, when, where and why because the WHO and CDC each have
    their own opinions. Many other doctors and scientists also have THEIR own thoughts as well.

    So, when anyone says that they'll do what "the experts" say, just nod your head, go on your way
    and do what you yourself feel is best because even "the experts" don't entirely agree.

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    Healthy people should wear masks only if caring for coronavirus patients, WHO says
    May 28, 2020 | 11:22pm
    https://nypost.com/2020/05/28/health...ents-who-says/

    The World Health Organization is recommending healthy people, including those who don’t exhibit COVID-19 symptoms, only wear masks when taking care of someone infected with the contagion, a sharp contrast from the advice given by American public health officials who recommend everyone wear a mask in public.

    “If you do not have any [respiratory] symptoms such as fever, cough or runny nose, you do not need to wear a mask,” Dr. April Baller, a public health specialist for the WHO, says in a video on the world health body’s website. “Masks should only be used by health care workers, caretakers or by people who are sick with symptoms of fever and cough.”

    The recommendation differs from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which urges individuals to wear a mask or face covering in public settings, regardless of infection, to limit the spread of the virus.

    “We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (‘asymptomatic’) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (‘pre-symptomatic’) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms,” the CDC mask guidance says. “In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.”

    Baller noted that masks can give people a “false feeling of protection” and noted that sick individuals should wear one to prevent transmitting the virus to others.
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    I'd like to survey at random people wearing masks.
    Q: Do you personally know anyone who has died from Covid19?
    Q: If not, do you personally know anyone who has been infected by the coronavirus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    I'd like to survey at random people wearing masks.
    Q: Do you personally know anyone who has died from Covid19?
    Q: If not, do you personally know anyone who has been infected by the coronavirus?
    I do wear a homemade shield when asked to at my doctor's office and/or an indoor establishment. That's about it.
    As to your questions...no & no.
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    A: No.
    A: My GF works at a hospital, she knows of some cases. Some have recovered (2 were on vents, a few others not admitted seriously), I believe one is on a vent now and a few others are just being hospitalized. But the majority who have tested positive are at home. Myself? No, I know of no one, but I haven't been in contact with a lot of people I normally would have been. Hope that answers your question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post

    So, this is it folks. It's now multiple choice. Wear it, don't wear it, do or don't wear it if you're sick or healthy,
    do or don't wear it indoors or outdoors, etc. Who knows how, when, where and why because the WHO and CDC each have
    their own opinions. Many other doctors and scientists also have THEIR own thoughts as well.

    So, when anyone says that they'll do what "the experts" say, just nod your head, go on your way
    and do what you yourself feel is best because even "the experts" don't entirely agree.

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    Healthy people should wear masks only if caring for coronavirus patients, WHO says
    May 28, 2020 | 11:22pm
    https://nypost.com/2020/05/28/health...ents-who-says/

    The World Health Organization is recommending healthy people, including those who don’t exhibit COVID-19 symptoms, only wear masks when taking care of someone infected with the contagion, a sharp contrast from the advice given by American public health officials who recommend everyone wear a mask in public.

    “If you do not have any [respiratory] symptoms such as fever, cough or runny nose, you do not need to wear a mask,” Dr. April Baller, a public health specialist for the WHO, says in a video on the world health body’s website. “Masks should only be used by health care workers, caretakers or by people who are sick with symptoms of fever and cough.”

    The recommendation differs from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which urges individuals to wear a mask or face covering in public settings, regardless of infection, to limit the spread of the virus.

    “We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (‘asymptomatic’) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (‘pre-symptomatic’) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms,” the CDC mask guidance says. “In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.”

    Baller noted that masks can give people a “false feeling of protection” and noted that sick individuals should wear one to prevent transmitting the virus to others.
    That's how science works, when new data come in it is updated as to what the countermeasures should be , something that trumpanzees "mind" cannot grasp since it is binary
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    I'd like to survey at random people wearing masks.
    Q: Do you personally know anyone who has died from Covid19?
    Q: If not, do you personally know anyone who has been infected by the coronavirus?
    yes to question number 1, 36 years old with no underlying conditions
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    yes to question number 1, 36 years old with no underlying conditions
    Where did this person live? Or should I say live then die?

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    There are always underlying conditions. Might not look evident on the outside, but it's there. Some sort of immune deficiency. They might not
    be full blown diabetic, but were possibly insulin resistant. Their cholesterol simple numbers might have looked good, but maybe those "good-looking"
    numbers were all small dense dangerous particles and they never new because their doctor never did a lipoprotein fractionation lab on them. Everyone
    should request this lab work at their yearly check-ups. More and more doctors thankfully are already automatically doing this these days.
    Whatever the issue, it was enough to weaken their body's ability to fight off a virus.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    And, will the WHO and CDC change their minds again? Birx already has said she's not too confident in the CDC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    That's how science works, when new data come in it is updated as to what the countermeasures should be , something that trumpanzees "mind" cannot grasp since it is binary
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    So the who is a-okay with you all now? ROTFLFMAO!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    There are always underlying conditions. Might not look evident on the outside, but it's there. Some sort of immune deficiency. They might not
    be full blown diabetic, but were possibly insulin resistant. Their cholesterol simple numbers might have looked good, but maybe those "good-looking"
    numbers were all small dense dangerous particles and they never new because their doctor never did a lipoprotein fractionation lab on them. Everyone
    should request this lab work at their yearly check-ups. More and more doctors thankfully are already automatically doing this these days.
    Whatever the issue, it was enough to weaken their body's ability to fight off a virus.
    Remind me again where you got your medical degree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Remind me again where you got your medical degree?
    Not my responsibility to make sure YOU take care of yourself. Do whatever you want.
    Don't pay attention to current news, guidelines and procedures. There are lots of medical
    conferences held around the world that you can watch live as they occur. Not everyone
    has the same interests. If you feel like you might be interested in having your own doctor
    add a test or two to your yearly blood work, do it. If you don't, then don't do it.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    pain in abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    I'd like to survey at random people wearing masks.
    Q: Do you personally know anyone who has died from Covid19?
    Q: If not, do you personally know anyone who has been infected by the coronavirus?
    I know people who died. As a matter of fact, my doctor died from Corona He was 62. Now I await a message from his clinic to find where we go from here. Another is a Michigan politician who my family knows quite well.
    I wear a mask when i go out and I try to avoid going out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Don't pay attention to current news, guidelines and procedures. .
    That says it all.

    Hey, no worries, Stretch. You & Fox won - masks are now seen as signs of "oppression," and besides, they're just such a huge, huge inconvenience.

    You guys win. To fight a global pandemic, we will do absolutely nothing. No masks, no distancing, very little testing. It's a great plan.

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