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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Exactly so.

    Trumpelthinskin thinks that his executive order is going to somehow shut social media platforms down, or at least keep them from allowing him to spread hate, falsehoods, dissension, and unrest. He will find out that he has to operate under the same constitution as the rest of us.
    the issue is Section 230 of the Communications act

    https://www.businessinsider.com/what...plained-2020-5
    (47 U.S.C. § 230)
    No provider or user of an interactive computer service... shall be held liable on account of any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected."

    This specific text protects social-media sites against claims from people who say the First Amendment gives them the power to post whatever they'd like, as long as it's not illegal, without it being taken down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    the issue is Section 230 of the Communications act

    https://www.businessinsider.com/what...plained-2020-5
    (47 U.S.C. § 230)
    No provider or user of an interactive computer service... shall be held liable on account of any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected."

    This specific text protects social-media sites against claims from people who say the First Amendment gives them the power to post whatever they'd like, as long as it's not illegal, without it being taken down.
    I look forward to the delicious Schadenfreude when Trumpelthinskin challenges Twitter in court for posting fact-checks on his lies, and loses his big orange ass.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I look forward to the delicious Schadenfreude when Trumpelthinskin challenges Twitter in court for posting fact-checks on his lies, and loses his big orange ass.
    some of the EO won't stand -
    however Twitter is clearly biased in it's application of "fact checking" and that could finally get them to play fair

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    the issue is Section 230 of the Communications act

    https://www.businessinsider.com/what...plained-2020-5
    (47 U.S.C. § 230)
    No provider or user of an interactive computer service... shall be held liable on account of any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected."

    This specific text protects social-media sites against claims from people who say the First Amendment gives them the power to post whatever they'd like, as long as it's not illegal, without it being taken down.
    That is why Trump had billy barr out there yesterday in his photo op doing what he does best, muddling legalities to make it appear Trump is correct

    The only options Trump has is to have Congress pass legislation, or, take it to Court, either choice not reaching conclusion till way after the November election. In the meantime, it doesn’t appear Dorsey is intimidated by Trump’s threats, so the only real loser here is Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Twitter has once again taken action against President Trump, this time censoring a tweet for "glorifying violence" in his late-night response to the ongoing violence in Minneapolis.

    Trump said he couldn't not just watch the city be overwhelmed by the unrest over the death of George Floyd.

    “I can’t stand back & watch this happen to a great American City, Minneapolis,” Trump tweeted. “A total lack of leadership. Either the very weak Radical Left Mayor, Jacob Frey, get his act together and bring the City under control, or I will send in the National Guard & get the job done right.



    Critics on Twitter said Trump's comments had racial undertones and said the term "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" can be traced back to Miami Police Chief Walter Headley in 1967 as a threat to black protestors during the civil rights movement.

    When asked for comment, Twitter pointed to a thread explaining the decision.

    "This Tweet violates our policies regarding the glorification of violence based on the historical context of the last line, its connection to violence, and the risk it could inspire similar actions today," Twitter Comms wrote. "We've taken action in the interest of preventing others from being inspired to commit violent acts, but have kept the Tweet on Twitter because it is important that the public still be able to see the Tweet given its relevance to ongoing matters of public importance."
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twi...ifies-violence
    They need to be shut down immediately that tweet in no way glorified violence not only are they violating FCC regulations they are lying when they do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    some of the EO won't stand -
    however Twitter is clearly biased in it's application of "fact checking" and that could finally get them to play fair
    The only "unfair" I've seen from them is allowing the Agitator-in-Chief to get away with his lies, misinformation, bullshit, hate, manure-spreading, racism, bigotry, threats, bullying, taunting, and nastiness for years. Many average citizens have been temporarily or permanently booted from using their privately-owned site for far less. Ditto with Facebook.

    In America no one is special and receives more privileges than others. Unless of course they are wealthy, have lots of lawyers, are white, male, and conservative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    That is why Trump had billy barr out there yesterday in his photo op doing what he does best, muddling legalities to make it appear Trump is correct

    The only options Trump has is to have Congress pass legislation, or, take it to Court, either choice not reaching conclusion till way after the November election. In the meantime, it doesn’t appear Dorsey is intimidated by Trump’s threats, so the only real loser here is Trump
    of course you would look for unfair treatment as just being fine and dandy -
    being a rank partisan and consumer of Fake News.

    Trump issued the EO -Twitter or those who have standing will "take it to court"- you got that backwards

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    That is why Trump had billy barr out there yesterday in his photo op doing what he does best, muddling legalities to make it appear Trump is correct

    The only options Trump has is to have Congress pass legislation, or, take it to Court, either choice not reaching conclusion till way after the November election. In the meantime, it doesn’t appear Dorsey is intimidated by Trump’s threats, so the only real loser here is Trump
    Try again you dumb fuck the statutes already ban them from editorializing and now Trump as the highest legal officer of the country is exercising his sworn oath to faithfully execute the law by ordering the FCC to enforce regulations already on the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    of course you would look for unfair treatment as just being fine and dandy -
    being a rank partisan and consumer of Fake News.

    Trump issued the EO -Twitter or those who have standing will "take it to court"- you got that backwards
    Should be noted that Anatta's defense of this is that the President has the Constitutional right to lie and misinform. So the entire argument is rooted in bad faith. Because of that, we can't trust anything Trump or Anatta says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    The only "unfair" I've seen from them is allowing the Agitator-in-Chief to get away with his lies, misinformation, bullshit, hate, manure-spreading, racism, bigotry, threats, bullying, taunting, and nastiness for years. Many average citizens have been temporarily or permanently booted from using their privately-owned site for far less. Ditto with Facebook.

    In America no one is special and receives more privileges than others. Unless of course they are wealthy, have lots of lawyers, are white, male, and conservative.
    so i guess you cant discriminate between inciting to violence etc, and political speech
    In America no one is special and receives more privileges than others.
    when is the last time you've seen Twitter attach a 'fact correction' to other politicians? or 2? 1 day after the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    ROFL.
    Yes im sure the protestors/riots are UP IN ARMS OVER TRUMP'S TWEET!
    You missed the context of my remark. If police or national guardsmen were given the kind of orders that Stone was recommending, Trump's tweet would definitely be influential.

    It was an incredibly irresponsible message for a national leader to give. If you can't at least acknowledge that, you're really incapable of any sort of critical analysis of Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Should be noted that Anatta's defense of this is that the President has the Constitutional right to lie and misinform. So the entire argument is rooted in bad faith. Because of that, we can't trust anything Trump or Anatta says.
    actually POLITICAL SPEECH is the MOST PROTECTED type of speech. nothing to do with "bad faith"
    "lies and misinform" are largely determined by one's politics - which is why Twitter is using it's editorial powers unevenly as well. ( ie. they are corporate political hacks)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeSpeech View Post
    They need to be shut down immediately that tweet in no way glorified violence not only are they violating FCC regulations they are lying when they do it.
    First we got the accented THUGS, how come he didn’t phrase it as “good people on both sides” like he did Charlottesville, and secondly, “the shooting starts,” certainly not looking for peaceful solutions there

    Get real, Trump don’t give a rat’s ass about Minneapolis nor George Floyd, he is just pimping the events to attack twitter cause he is pissed his lies and fabrications are being questioned and there isn’t a damn thing he can do about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    so i guess you cant discriminate between inciting to violence etc, and political speech
    when is the last time you've seen Twitter attach a 'fact correction' to other politicians? or 2? 1 day after the other?
    Other politicians do not lie as much as Trump.

    It is literally a scientific fact at this point that Trump is a pathological liar. No other mainstream politician or former president comes close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    You missed the context of my remark. If police or national guardsmen were given the kind of orders that Stone was recommending, Trump's tweet would definitely be influential.

    It was an incredibly irresponsible message for a national leader to give. If you can't at least acknowledge that, you're really incapable of any sort of critical analysis of Trump.
    what was Stone recommendation" ( i consume vast quantities of text while at he same time working on line) -
    so it's EZ to miss) explain please

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