Members banned from this thread: Truth Detector and Doc Dutch


Page 2 of 11 FirstFirst 123456 ... LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 160

Thread: Faith

  1. #16 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Posts
    34,322
    Thanks
    3,498
    Thanked 11,601 Times in 9,273 Posts
    Groans
    632
    Groaned 1,405 Times in 1,371 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I read the Bible at that time, poorly (I was young), and that was the only god that I had been introduced to (other than the "anti" god Islamic folk who believed that Allah wanted that same stuff)...

    My questions were Christian centralized, because that was my exposure to what "god" had to say. In those books it is important to worship this god, and the god even teaches folks how to pray... so I asked questions. Almost always got in trouble for them too.
    So that's a no on a Epiphany.
    AM I, I AM's,AM I.
    What day is Michaelmas on?

  2. #17 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Posts
    34,322
    Thanks
    3,498
    Thanked 11,601 Times in 9,273 Posts
    Groans
    632
    Groaned 1,405 Times in 1,371 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    So Trump is your God now?
    No,YHWH is God
    AM I, I AM's,AM I.
    What day is Michaelmas on?

  3. #18 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Posts
    34,322
    Thanks
    3,498
    Thanked 11,601 Times in 9,273 Posts
    Groans
    632
    Groaned 1,405 Times in 1,371 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Seems some are confused on faith, it isn't aristotelian, you are never going to make sense of it in quantitative terms, you either have it or you don't
    Exactly
    AM I, I AM's,AM I.
    What day is Michaelmas on?

  4. #19 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Posts
    34,322
    Thanks
    3,498
    Thanked 11,601 Times in 9,273 Posts
    Groans
    632
    Groaned 1,405 Times in 1,371 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Uh, yeah. Sure. Ever ask him why he never provided you with a Girlfriend?
    You're not mocking Jade,you're mocking God
    AM I, I AM's,AM I.
    What day is Michaelmas on?

  5. #20 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    85,117
    Thanks
    2,505
    Thanked 16,531 Times in 10,535 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 578 Times in 535 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    No,YHWH is God
    You can actually write the word Yahweh without getting killed. This isn't a language with no written vowels.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

  6. #21 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Posts
    5,757
    Thanks
    3,941
    Thanked 3,338 Times in 2,286 Posts
    Groans
    827
    Groaned 633 Times in 549 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    That's still a bunch of nonsense. This god would be able to read my intent, no need for all the worship and pleading, he'd simply know.
    It doesn't matter if he knows what you want or not. There's the request and the prayer is an offering. It humbles you and the crosses and humility you hold empower it.

  7. #22 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Posts
    5,757
    Thanks
    3,941
    Thanked 3,338 Times in 2,286 Posts
    Groans
    827
    Groaned 633 Times in 549 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Uh, yeah. Sure. Ever ask him why he never provided you with a Girlfriend?
    I've never been looking, duh.

  8. #23 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    85,117
    Thanks
    2,505
    Thanked 16,531 Times in 10,535 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 578 Times in 535 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    It doesn't matter if he knows what you want or not. There's the request and the prayer is an offering. It humbles you and the crosses and humility you hold empower it.
    And now we are back to why would this all powerful god want to humble this not so powerful child. Would you really ask your child to beg before you gave him breakfast? I don't know of many who would.

    This same Bible that told me that god was love and that love was humble told me that the god that was literally defined as love demanded me to be humble and to beg and worship like the bug I am to the all powerful all knowing god... that same Bible told me that love is not jealous, then told me that god was jealous.... I can go on, but none of this made any sense. Then later I read that I could not question god, because that is "tempting" god. Then I read Job questioning god, but he was righteous...
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

  9. #24 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    9,223
    Thanks
    2,352
    Thanked 1,780 Times in 1,484 Posts
    Groans
    520
    Groaned 639 Times in 611 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason? View Post
    Attachment 15437Straight

    This is what Faith is all about
    In which case, there's no point in prayer.

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


    "When I am president I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf" Donald J. Trump, world class snake oil salesman and compulsive golfer August 2016

    The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Powell
    It’s now ‘me the president’ instead of ‘we the people’

  10. #25 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    9,223
    Thanks
    2,352
    Thanked 1,780 Times in 1,484 Posts
    Groans
    520
    Groaned 639 Times in 611 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    One of the questions I asked when I was a child was why god would need me to tell him what I needed when he is supposed to know everything, see everything, and be all powerful?

    Another I asked is why would this god want us to worship them, my mother doesn't want me to worship her, why would this person that I am supposed to see as a dad want my worship?
    Both excellent questions. And why does this loving God answer so few prayers? And why does an omnipotent and omniscient Being have such a weak ego that He needs the worship of such insignificant beings such as us?

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


    "When I am president I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf" Donald J. Trump, world class snake oil salesman and compulsive golfer August 2016

    The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Powell
    It’s now ‘me the president’ instead of ‘we the people’

  11. #26 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    9,223
    Thanks
    2,352
    Thanked 1,780 Times in 1,484 Posts
    Groans
    520
    Groaned 639 Times in 611 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    God wants people to come to him because we turned our backs. Prayer is a way to always have other's sake in heart and mind and is an exercise of grace. There's a lot more to it but that is giving you an idea of why without writing you a college lecture worth of stuff.
    So the only answer would be a bunch of bull.
    We didn't turn our backs on Him. He turned His back on us. He failed Adam and Eve.

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
    Last edited by rjhenn; 05-28-2020 at 06:16 PM.
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


    "When I am president I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf" Donald J. Trump, world class snake oil salesman and compulsive golfer August 2016

    The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Powell
    It’s now ‘me the president’ instead of ‘we the people’

  12. #27 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    9,223
    Thanks
    2,352
    Thanked 1,780 Times in 1,484 Posts
    Groans
    520
    Groaned 639 Times in 611 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Seems some are confused on faith, it isn't aristotelian, you are never going to make sense of it in quantitative terms, you either have it or you don't
    So it's a disease?

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


    "When I am president I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf" Donald J. Trump, world class snake oil salesman and compulsive golfer August 2016

    The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Powell
    It’s now ‘me the president’ instead of ‘we the people’

  13. #28 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    9,223
    Thanks
    2,352
    Thanked 1,780 Times in 1,484 Posts
    Groans
    520
    Groaned 639 Times in 611 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    So that's a no on a Epiphany.
    You mean a no on a psychotic episode.

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


    "When I am president I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf" Donald J. Trump, world class snake oil salesman and compulsive golfer August 2016

    The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Powell
    It’s now ‘me the president’ instead of ‘we the people’

  14. #29 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    9,223
    Thanks
    2,352
    Thanked 1,780 Times in 1,484 Posts
    Groans
    520
    Groaned 639 Times in 611 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    You're not mocking Jade,you're mocking God
    Everything is just the way that God intended it to be.

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


    "When I am president I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf" Donald J. Trump, world class snake oil salesman and compulsive golfer August 2016

    The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Powell
    It’s now ‘me the president’ instead of ‘we the people’

  15. #30 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    134,846
    Thanks
    13,245
    Thanked 40,785 Times in 32,151 Posts
    Groans
    3,661
    Groaned 2,865 Times in 2,752 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Again, why would I need to ask, God already knows my needs, better than I would if you believe the stories of omniscience. He's also psychic and can hear my thoughts. Why must I direct a fake conversation to a sky daddy that already knows what I want or need?
    but wouldn't he also know that you didn't care enough about it to ask?......if you don't care enough to want it you probably didn't need it as much as you thought you did.......

    Why would this god care if I asked or didn't? Those things would be the same to this entity of all knowing power. And finally what would make this god care about the ape descendants on this dirtball more than the alligator descendants on planet Dwapslab?
    first of all, why presume he doesn't care as much for Dwapslab as he does Earth?.......if he cared enough to create them, it might follow that he cares enough to sustain them......and, I think it is presumptuous to take it as a given that all things would be the same to an entity of an all knowing power......he may well know, (being all knowing) that it isn't the same if we live or if we die......that it isn't the same if we ask or don't ask while it is us, who are not all knowing, that don't know the difference.......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

Similar Threads

  1. Faith-Based RE-SET!!!!
    By Mr. Shaman in forum General Politics Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-06-2016, 09:38 AM
  2. Departure from faith
    By Granule in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-14-2013, 07:22 PM
  3. My Muslim faith
    By theMAJORITY in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 09-10-2008, 01:39 PM
  4. The Faith Trap
    By Dixie - In Memoriam in forum General Politics Forum
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 09-10-2008, 07:25 AM
  5. Who has more faith
    By Timshel in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 41
    Last Post: 08-10-2008, 03:48 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •