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Thread: Jewish study results; Jews and Arabs Share Genetic Link to Ancient Canaanites

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Just point out where in the Koran it states that Islam stems from Abraham and I won't think you're the repetitive fool that you seem to want to depict yourself as.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_in_Islam

    Ishmael (Arabic: إسماعيل‎, Ismā‘īl) is the figure known in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam as Abraham's (Ibrahim) son, born to Hagar (Hajar). In Islam, Ishmael is regarded as a prophet (nabi) and an ancestor to Muhammad. He also became associated with Mecca and the construction of the Kaaba. These sources include the Quran, Quranic commentary (tafsir), hadith, historiographic collections like that of Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari, and Isra'iliyat (Islamic texts about Biblical or ancient Israelite figures that originate from Jewish or Christian sources).[1][2]:13


    Anyway... Abraham is in both, and Muhammad was a direct descendant.. Shocking there, both of these people recognize this. Where they disagree tends to be in whether Abraham kept Hagar around or not, not in the fact that both peoples were fathered by the same prophet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    How so? If biblical history is wrong, does that not prove that the Bible isn't the word of God?
    No it proves you're wrong
    AM I, I AM's,AM I.
    What day is Michaelmas on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_in_Islam

    Ishmael (Arabic: إسماعيل‎, Ismā‘īl) is the figure known in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam as Abraham's (Ibrahim) son, born to Hagar (Hajar). In Islam, Ishmael is regarded as a prophet (nabi) and an ancestor to Muhammad. He also became associated with Mecca and the construction of the Kaaba. These sources include the Quran, Quranic commentary (tafsir), hadith, historiographic collections like that of Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari, and Isra'iliyat (Islamic texts about Biblical or ancient Israelite figures that originate from Jewish or Christian sources).[1][2]:13


    Anyway... Abraham is in both, and Muhammad was a direct descendant.. Shocking there, both of these people recognize this. Where they disagree tends to be in whether Abraham kept Hagar around or not, not in the fact that both peoples were fathered by the same prophet...
    They are religious texts, not genetic studies. Religious texts have been subjected to extensive editing over time. Genetics is science.

    NeoZionist fascists will be a tad shocked to discover that they are descended from Iranians.
    They will probably claim that they ' knew ' that already.
    Haw, haw...........................haw
    Last edited by moon; 05-29-2020 at 01:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    No it proves you're wrong
    How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    How so?
    There is a God
    AM I, I AM's,AM I.
    What day is Michaelmas on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Again. I'm typing slow so you can understand...
    That would surely be ' typing slow ' so that you can understand yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    There is a God
    Well if there is, he certainly didn't authorize the Bible, because biblical history is objectively wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Well if there is, he certainly didn't authorize the Bible, because biblical history is objectively wrong.
    There was a god before psychiatry .
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    They are religious texts, not genetic studies. Religious texts have been subjected to extensive editing over time. Genetics is science.

    NeoZionist fascists will be a tad shocked to discover that they are descended from Iranians.
    They will probably claim that they ' knew ' that already.
    Haw, haw...........................haw
    Which was my point, your study only told them that their texts were "true", like proving to them that 2+2=4. It's stupid to think that this would cause anything at all to happen. No wringing of the hands, etc. both groups already believe that according to their texts that they were genetically linked. You are truly a "special" folk, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Which was my point, your study only told them that their texts were "true", like proving to them that 2+2=4. It's stupid to think that this would cause anything at all to happen. No wringing of the hands, etc. both groups already believe that according to their texts that they were genetically linked. You are truly a "special" folk, eh?
    You are giving these people credit for more intelligence than they have. Yourself too, apparently. The Jews, for example, claim that they are ' chosen ' Millions of dumb Americans agree. How do they imagine that they are superior to others when they are actually the same people ? This feat of self-elevation- which I'm sure you'll be familiar with- is achieved by means of willful ignorance.

    So- millions of dumb Americans are faced with a genetic study which proves that the people they have been.. er..' educated' to revile- whose very existence they have been brainwashed to deny- are actually the same people as those who they have been conditioned to believe are spiritually blessed.

    I think you're going to have a great deal of difficulty in navigating your cart of manure up the slope. Even if they do ' know ' that their chosen tribes are descended from 'Iranians' then, outside of a few genuine scholars, they are most certainly not going to acknowledge it.

    2=2=4 eh ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSgt View Post
    Do the fuckers follow the Law?
    The ' Chosen ' ones follow their own. Unless it's inconvenient. Then they write a different one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    There was a god before psychiatry .
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    You're advised to define ' nation ' before lecturing on what it is.
    The standard legal one: https://thelawdictionary.org/nation/
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I do. The Bible says that the Jews and Arabs are descended from Abraham. This is incorrect because the Jews and Arabs are actually descended from the Canaanites.
    I encourage everyone to read religious texts. It's a good way to debunk religions.
    will you be providing supporting evidence??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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