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    Default Do the companies who own websites have a right to determine content?

    Trump threatens to shut down Twitter for pointing out that his Tweets are lies, does he have that power?


    Republicans, how do you feel about that?
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    your thread title is misleading/inexact.
    Social media is more then a common website.
    It replaces the old public square -but you are correct in that it is privately held.

    The question then does social media platforms have the right to censor free (political) speech.
    Thy rely on "it's a private corp and we can arbitrarily do as we please"

    That has to change. fact checking by itself is often biased as well; leave it in the "marketplace of ideas" to decide instead
    or Congress has to pass regs that do not allow for corporate interference of political speech

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    your thread title is misleading/inexact.
    Social media is more then a common website. It replaces the old public square -bu you are correct in that it is privately held.

    The question then does social media platforms have the right to censor free (political) speech.
    Thy rely on "it's a private corp and we can arbitrarily do as we please"

    That has to change. fact checking by itself is often biased as well ; leave it in the "marketplace of ideas"
    or Congress has to pass regs that do not allow for corporate interference of politicalspeech
    Is it censorship is if they do not take it down, but instead point out that it is untrue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    your thread title is misleading/inexact.
    Social media is more then a common website.
    It replaces the old public square -but you are correct in that it is privately held.

    The question then does social media platforms have the right to censor free (political) speech.
    Thy rely on "it's a private corp and we can arbitrarily do as we please"

    That has to change. fact checking by itself is often biased as well; leave it in the "marketplace of ideas" to decide instead
    or Congress has to pass regs that do not allow for corporate interference of political speech
    So you want the Government to regulate what type of speech private companies allow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Is it censorship is if they do not take it down, but instead point out that it is untrue?
    yes. because the fact checking is often biased in itself, and attaching a "correction" diminishes the speech
    Again the way to handle it is like we always do. argue the points

    who's check the fact checkers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    So you want the Government to regulate what type of speech private companies allow?
    I want regs that treat social media for what they empowered to do -allow free speech-
    but without corporate interference

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    yes. because the fact checking is often biased in itself, and attaching a "correction" diminishes the speech
    Again the way to handle it is like we always do. argue the points

    who's check the fact checkers?
    But the presidents post is not removed? People are still able to decide for themselves, the private company should not be allowed to share their counter point of view?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    your thread title is misleading/inexact.
    Social media is more then a common website.
    It replaces the old public square -but you are correct in that it is privately held.

    The question then does social media platforms have the right to censor free (political) speech.
    Thy rely on "it's a private corp and we can arbitrarily do as we please"

    That has to change. fact checking by itself is often biased as well; leave it in the "marketplace of ideas" to decide instead
    or Congress has to pass regs that do not allow for corporate interference of political speech
    Hey smarty pants! Trump can say whatever he wants on Twitter- and Twitter has never denied Trump from saying whatever he wants on Twitter.

    No one is denying Donald Trump his Freedom of Speech!

    But Freedom of Speech is a two way street and a double-edged sword.

    Twitter has the right to Freedom of Speech as well, and they are using their Freedom Of Speech to fact check this lying President!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I want regs that treat social media for what they empowered to do -allow free speech-
    but without corporate interference
    SO the corporation itself is not allowed to express an idea?
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    Free Speech and the Regulation of Social Media Content

    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45650.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    SO the corporation itself is not allowed to express an idea?
    They certainly can issue any statement or idea. the problem comes when they attach it to others comments

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    But the presidents post is not removed? People are still able to decide for themselves, the private company should not be allowed to share their counter point of view?
    would you want your comments to be attached for fact checking?
    comments need to stand alone to get their individuals idea across.

    You can certainly debate it or counter it but attaching you opinion ( which by and large is what fact checking does in the political realm) diminishes the original comment as not being worthy of note. It's a chilling effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    They certainly can issue any statement or idea. the problem comes when they attach it to others comments

    Wow, I have finally seen it all, the Republicans are officially no longer conservative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Wow, I have finally seen it all, the Republicans are officially no longer conservative.
    defending free speech is originalism - it's even enumerated. nothing to do with lib/con
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
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    We finally found the line where Republicans want to regulate big business, its wherever Trump says.
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