And they don’t understand why Kapernick took a knee.

[Nomad]

You obviously don't think the cop killed him,so he has to be dead another way.

Wrong.

There is no medical PROOF yet that the cop's actions were the SOLE CAUSE of his death.

[Nomad]

You obviously don't think the cop killed him,so he has to be dead another way.

His death might have possibly been aided by a life of abusing his body with booze, cigarettes, drugs etc.

We don't know enough to draw conclusions yet.

Apparently that doesn't stop you, though.

[Mason Michaels]

His death might have possibly been aided by a life of abusing his body with booze, cigarettes, drugs etc.

We don't know enough to draw conclusions yet.

Apparently that doesn't stop you, though.

I'm sure it was a coincidence,he happened to die with a cops knee on his neck 7minutes

[volsrock]

His death might have possibly been aided by a life of abusing his body with booze, cigarettes, drugs etc.

We don't know enough to draw conclusions yet.

Apparently that doesn't stop you, though.

If it comes out that this guy's system was full of cocaine and his heart exploded.... 90% of the blacks and most on the left would still want these cops charged

[Mott the Hoople]

The reality is there's always going to be injustice in the world and this country. So from that perspective there's always reason to protest and in essence never stand for the national anthem. So if the national anthem was intended as a source of pride and unity, maybe we should just not have it.

Regarding the cops, there are a couple of arguments. The biggest one is officers would do things like this in past and get away with it (or get caught on video and still not found guilty; see King, Rodney). Hopefully these guys will be charged and found guilty. Cops need to able to do their job but if they cross the line they need to know they will be held accountable. That to me is the best way for things to change.

What frustrates other professionals who work in dangerous fields of work (and mine is more dangerous than being a police officer) is that when we cross that line and commit an egregious act of negligence, incompetence or malice, you are held to account by your own profession first. All to often when police officers commit such acts they hide behind politics and a good ole boy system that protects them from accountability. What is somewhat encouraging here is that they were swiftly fired.

[Mott the Hoople]

In the past without question but not really now. That hold is used by the British police but they don't use the knee and the upper part of the leg for obvious reasons. Here is another for you to consider where a Hispanic officer killed a black guy. He was charged and acquitted but fired from the police department. Was that racism or just an poorly trained idiot?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoo...ilando_Castile

or both.

[Mott the Hoople]

And Blacks are taught that kops will kill you if you make one wrong move.


GTFOH

I have watched several of my African American friends teach their kids exactly that. I don’t blame them though I don’t think racism is the whole sum of the problem either. A large part of the problem is the militarization of our police.

[cawacko]

What frustrates other professionals who work in dangerous fields of work (and mine is more dangerous than being a police officer) is that when we cross that line and commit an egregious act of negligence, incompetence or malice, you are held to account by your own profession first. All to often when police officers commit such acts they hide behind politics and a good ole boy system that protects them from accountability. What is somewhat encouraging here is that they were swiftly fired.

The difference here might be are people who are incompetent in your field breaking the law? Because by essentially murdering this guy the cops were breaking the law and that goes beyond any internal punishment.

I'll probably get sh*t on for saying this but police officers have a union and unions protect their workers, often even the worst ones. Just like its hard to fire bad teachers I'm sure its not easy firing bad cops. I'm sure many of us would like to see the union hold police officers more accountable but they get paid to defend them and thus reform and changes is very/extremely difficult.

I've never belonged to a union but to me that's your trade-off. Unions protect their workers and that includes the poor/bad ones.

[TTQ64]

I have watched several of my African American friends teach their kids exactly that. I don’t blame them though I don’t think racism is the whole sum of the problem either. A large part of the problem is the militarization of our police.

And this is why it continues to happens.

White people refusing to believe it's racism. shrugging shoulders

[Nomad]

I'm sure it was a coincidence,he happened to die with a cops knee on his neck 7minutes

Not sure you really understand the meaning of the word "coincidence".

If the man's health was shot due to years of drug abuse, any kind of stress could have killed him.

The point is that we don't know one way or the other.

But jumping to knee-jerk conclusions makes some people feel better I guess.

[TTQ64]

His death might have possibly been aided by a life of abusing his body with booze, cigarettes, drugs etc.

We don't know enough to draw conclusions yet.

Apparently that doesn't stop you, though.

He was a althlete........you racist fuck.

A coach in the community.

Why is it always Black people fault when they are murdered by racist whites?

[Nomad]

And this is why it continues to happens.

White people refusing to believe it's racism. shrugging shoulders

[Nomad]

He was a althlete........you racist fuck.

A coach in the community.

Why is it always Black people fault when they are murdered by racist whites?

[Cypress]

This is where we disagree. You have to draw attention to it anyway we can. Not everyone has the type of platform Kap has.

Racist white men and women armed with guns stormed the capital in protest and demanded the country open itself up to a virus that is killing hundreds of thousand...........and they were successful. No rubber bullets or tear gas required.

As for the "violence" at the protest........it's not started by the protesters it's started by the kops.

We have to protest by any means necessary.

That's what I meant: it was smart for Colin to leverage his platform for maximum impact. It would have been stupid for him to stand in front of a police station.

But obviously, not everyone has the tools and platform available to them that Colin had

[TTQ64]

the criminals, crooks, violent thugs are racist white american men they are running the country.

they want you to look at Blacks instead of them.

open your eyes