christiefan915 (05-27-2020), Phantasmal (05-27-2020), TTQ64 (05-27-2020)
Such a small-scale protest wouldn't have garnered much chatter.
Kaepernick wanted to bring attention to an issue that had gone on for too long - what he did got an entire nation at least talking about it. I have to shake my head a little when people argue he should have been more polite about it.
What happened to this guy in MN has been going on for decades - and long before everyone had iPhones to capture it. 20 years ago, those cops likely would still be on the street, and no one would know what really happened.
christiefan915 (05-27-2020), Phantasmal (05-27-2020), TTQ64 (05-27-2020)
Nope. He was protesting the country. He put the blame on the whole country, not the police brutality itself.
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,"
This country does not oppress black people. He possibly could have a prosperous NFL career had he not insulted this
country with his racist views. Glad to see him out of football, for good.
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
christiefan915 (05-27-2020)
Life is Golden (05-28-2020)
Ok I’m telling you this as a professional in a safety related field with a graduate education in human biology. Under no circumstances whatsoever should a police officer (or anyone for that matter) ever, ever kneel and place their weight on someone’s neck. It can permanently cripple them or, as in this case, kill them.
You're Never Alone With A Schizophrenic!
PoliTalker (05-27-2020)
The reality is there's always going to be injustice in the world and this country. So from that perspective there's always reason to protest and in essence never stand for the national anthem. So if the national anthem was intended as a source of pride and unity, maybe we should just not have it.
Regarding the cops, there are a couple of arguments. The biggest one is officers would do things like this in past and get away with it (or get caught on video and still not found guilty; see King, Rodney). Hopefully these guys will be charged and found guilty. Cops need to able to do their job but if they cross the line they need to know they will be held accountable. That to me is the best way for things to change.
PoliTalker (05-27-2020)
ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch
TTQ64 (05-27-2020)
Police brutality is an issue of national concern.
The savvy protestor will use a prominent medium to protest it. Like a nationally televised sporting event. Showing up in front of the Peoria police station to protest is a stupid and less effective way to shine a light on this issue.
What Colin did as a socially conscious protester was was smart.
Your attempt to caricature me as a Fox News stereotype of a leftist social justice warrior is of no consequence. I have a public record on this board of sticking up for any group, person, or ideology which merits it.
cancel2 2022 (05-27-2020)
christiefan915 (05-27-2020), Mott the Hoople (05-27-2020), TTQ64 (05-27-2020)
So you believe that showing complete disrespect to the nation that has given you so much freedom is perfectly ok if it is for a good cause? I suppose you would be ok with me burning the US flag on the steps of the Lincoln memorial to protest poverty in America. or any of the myriad of injustices in this country?
I'm always amazed when people chime in w/ these kinds of false comparisons. Obviously, that's a terrible situation.
But are you denying that the black community doesn't have their own unique gripe based on how the justice system has treated them in general over the past century or so?
christiefan915 (05-27-2020), Guno צְבִי (05-27-2020), Mott the Hoople (05-27-2020), TTQ64 (05-27-2020)
I'm not saying we should accept injustice. Because it won't go away doesn't mean we should accept it. Just as violence is a part of the human condition doesn't mean we have to accept all violence. I was speaking to the national anthem. To my knowledge, the national anthem is sung as unity for us as Americans. We could change that in the future by never singing the national anthem, or no one stand, or we all turn our back to the flag or we all kneel for various forms of injustice. That's always an option but would that maintain its effectiveness in the long run?
“If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”
— Golda Meir
Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.
ברוך השם
“If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”
— Golda Meir
Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.
ברוך השם
ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch
christiefan915 (05-27-2020), Guno צְבִי (05-27-2020), PoliTalker (05-27-2020), signalmankenneth (05-27-2020)
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