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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Every country has greedy Capitalists, but Nationalism works as a check on Capitalism. Capitalism is out of control in the West because the Jewish media killed Nationalism.
    I don't believe that. Capitalism works best with as many Consumers as possible. Western Capitalists sold their Souls to have a chance at the 1.5 BILLION Chinese Consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I don't believe that. Capitalism works best with as many Consumers as possible. Western Capitalists sold their Souls to have a chance at the 1.5 BILLION Chinese Consumers.
    But outside of the West, Capitalists haven't been able to get their countries to have open borders. Capitalists were able to do this in the West, but only after Jews took over the media and academia then promoted White Guilt and Globalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    But outside of the West, Capitalists haven't been able to get their countries to have open borders. Capitalists were able to do this in the West, but only after Jews took over the media and academia then promoted White Guilt and Globalism.
    Capitalists were the ones that created the Virginia Company that founded Jamestown and Plymouth. Many were Freemasons and didn't have a religious agenda. They were interested in making money.

    "Virginia Company
    The Virginia Company refers collectively to two joint-stock companies chartered under James I on April 10, 1606 with the goal of establishing settlements on the coast of America. The two companies are referred to as the "Virginia Company of London" and the "Virginia Company of Plymouth", and they operated with identical charters in different territories.Wikipedia"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Capitalists were the ones that created the Virginia Company that founded Jamestown and Plymouth. Many were Freemasons and didn't have a religious agenda. They were interested in making money.

    "Virginia Company
    The Virginia Company refers collectively to two joint-stock companies chartered under James I on April 10, 1606 with the goal of establishing settlements on the coast of America. The two companies are referred to as the "Virginia Company of London" and the "Virginia Company of Plymouth", and they operated with identical charters in different territories.Wikipedia"
    But because Americans were still Ethnic Nationalists at the time, this didn't lead to mass immigration from the third world.

    It's also important to mention that not all rich business-owners are total Nihilists when it comes to their country. It's like that now because America is multiracial and doesn't have a national identity anymore. The death of Nationalism in the West has left people defenseless against Capitalism, but it's also created more of those soulless Capitalists who don't care about anything but making more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    But because Americans were still Ethnic Nationalists at the time, this didn't lead to mass immigration from the third world.

    It's also important to mention that not all rich business-owners are total Nihilists when it comes to their country. It's like that now because America is multiracial and doesn't have a national identity anymore. The death of Nationalism in the West has left people defenseless against Capitalism, but it's also created more of those soulless Capitalists who don't care about anything but making more money.
    "The Royal African Company - Supplying Slaves to Jamestown"
    https://www.nps.gov/jame/learn/histo...-jamestown.htm

    "As early as 1618, King James I had granted a patent to a company that wanted to trade for gold and precious woods in Africa. Other groups also received rights to trade in Africa, but never dealt with slaves in any major way. English involvement in the slave trade would intensify after 1663, when a new patent was issued to the Company of Royal Adventurers. England had realized the money to be made trading slaves to the West Indies and Virginia. By 1668, over a quarter of the new company’s profits was derived from the slave trade."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    "The Royal African Company - Supplying Slaves to Jamestown"
    https://www.nps.gov/jame/learn/histo...-jamestown.htm

    "As early as 1618, King James I had granted a patent to a company that wanted to trade for gold and precious woods in Africa. Other groups also received rights to trade in Africa, but never dealt with slaves in any major way. English involvement in the slave trade would intensify after 1663, when a new patent was issued to the Company of Royal Adventurers. England had realized the money to be made trading slaves to the West Indies and Virginia. By 1668, over a quarter of the new company’s profits was derived from the slave trade."
    Comparing slavery to modern immigration is actually great in showing how Capitalism becomes unrestrained without Ethnic Nationalism.

    Slavery was always a very unpopular practice in America and Britain because it hurt the white working-class. This acted as a check on how many Blacks could be brought in. At one point in America, slavery was legal, but shipping in more slaves was illegal. This was a compromise to appease the white working-class.
    However today, because of multiracialism, nobody cares about the country anymore. If slavery was legal today, everyone would be trying to buy a slave, even as the institution destroys the economy.

    We're always going to have selfish Capitalists, but at least with Ethnic Nationalism, we can unite as a people to fight against exploitation of the country. But when a country becomes multiracial, people don't care about the larger national community. It's why people are supporting Trump now no matter what he does to the country. Sure, some people support him because they believe his lie about the wall, but there are also tons of people who support him only because he pisses off Liberals. This is where we are now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I support NOT importing Third World Labor into the US.
    So lets take an American educated virologist PHD/medical doctor from India(a third world country) married to an American born US citizen with three American children. She is already in the country(the borders are closed after all), but needs to convert her student work papers into a permanent work papers and get to work on a vaccine that might save us all.

    You would have ICE go out and arrest her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The Democrats don't want to deport illegals and they want illegals to have healthcare.
    They may not use the term "open borders" but that's what this essentially is.
    Obama deported millions of illegal immigrants, and along with Bush secured the border. There has been net zero immigration with Mexico for over a decade.

    I would hope we get everyone here some basic healthcare, especially in this time of contagious diseases. If someone wants to buy health insurance, that is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    So lets take an American educated virologist PHD/medical doctor from India(a third world country) married to an American born US citizen with three American children. She is already in the country(the borders are closed after all), but needs to convert her student work papers into a permanent work papers and get to work on a vaccine that might save us all.

    You would have ICE go out and arrest her?
    Depends how long she takes on converting her papers. There is a difference between coming here illegally and coming here legally but ending up illegal because the system is slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Obama deported millions of illegal immigrants, and along with Bush secured the border. There has been net zero immigration with Mexico for over a decade.
    But then in the DNC primary debates, Obama was relentlessly criticized for deporting illegals. Today's Democrats want open borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I can actually envision both Dems and Repubs support a 'Saudi Plan' where Third World Labor is allowed in to do certain Labor.
    The excuse will be that 'Americans don't want to do that kind of Work'.

    It won't be for the 'Glory of Globalization'.
    It will be because it would cost too much to pay Americans to do the Work.
    I keep saying, if it costs too much to hire an American to do a job, maybe we don't need the job done. 2% of the people in California are employed picking fruit, many are illegal aliens, and the rest are trapped in extreme poverty. They get paid $50 for a 14 hour day, well below minimum wage. Fruit is about 1% of the California economy. Maybe the solution is to demand the fruit industry either pays a normal wage, or goes out of business. There are plenty of other countries we can get fruit from.

    I am using the word maybe, because I am unsure of the idea. It seems extreme to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    But outside of the West, Capitalists haven't been able to get their countries to have open borders. Capitalists were able to do this in the West, but only after Jews took over the media and academia then promoted White Guilt and Globalism.
    The real open borders are inside the EU. It is whites moving back and forth over them. An absolutely huge number of whites have moved back and forth over those borders.

    We opened our state borders in the 1790's, and there has been both white and black migration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Depends how long she takes on converting her papers. There is a difference between coming here illegally and coming here legally but ending up illegal because the system is slow.
    trump signed an executive order making it impossible to get working papers. With the pandemic on, it was extremely difficult, now it is basically impossible. So people who would be easy cases, that should have sailed through, and that we even desperately want are being stopped from working.

    That is the current reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    So lets take an American educated virologist PHD/medical doctor from India(a third world country) married to an American born US citizen with three American children. She is already in the country(the borders are closed after all), but needs to convert her student work papers into a permanent work papers and get to work on a vaccine that might save us all.

    You would have ICE go out and arrest her?
    I have NO PROBLEM with the people that are already HERE. At some point, you have to draw up the drawbridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    I keep saying, if it costs too much to hire an American to do a job, maybe we don't need the job done. 2% of the people in California are employed picking fruit, many are illegal aliens, and the rest are trapped in extreme poverty. They get paid $50 for a 14 hour day, well below minimum wage. Fruit is about 1% of the California economy. Maybe the solution is to demand the fruit industry either pays a normal wage, or goes out of business. There are plenty of other countries we can get fruit from.

    I am using the word maybe, because I am unsure of the idea. It seems extreme to me.
    Yes.

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