cancel2 2022 (06-20-2020)
Chile has more cases per million than the USA.
Chile and Brazil both have right wing leaders.
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cancel2 2022 (06-20-2020)
Brazil blows us away with new cases:
Nation ............New Cases ...........New Deaths
USA ............... +33,539 ..............+719
Brazil ..............+55,209 ........... +1,221
That darn right wing leadership is failing to handle the pandemic very well.
The WHO said it is an alarming rise in new cases, and most of them in the Americas.
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cancel2 2022 (06-20-2020)
The premise of this thread is nothing but a massive logical fallacy. It argues that a leader that is "Right wing" is somehow responsible for the results of COVID 19 in their country. It by definition eliminates any other possible causes.
For example, Brazil is listed. Is the results of COVID 19 there the fault of Bolsonaro or, is it the fault of his predecessors? Temer, the President Bolsonaro replaced was a Leftist impeached for corruption. His predecessor was Rousseff, a Communist who was also impeached for corruption. Her predecessor was Lula da Silva, a Leftist union boss who was convicted of corruption and barred from holding public office ever again....
Kinda argues that the problem didn't start with Bolsonaro.
Of course, there is also the likelihood that many countries don't have a good grasp on how many people really got COVID 19, or their death rate from it. Others, like China as a glaring example, have grossly understated the severity of their COVID 19 situation. So, the original thread premise is now largely invalidated because it cherry picks data from an incomplete or corrupted set of data.
I could go on, but it's not necessary. The intent of this thread was simply to bash the Right politically rather than an honest attempt to point out some rational argument or position.
cancel2 2022 (06-20-2020)
Hello T. A. Gardner,
Bolsonaro has routinely refused to take known proactive steps to fight the spread.
Now he's getting what he had coming with that approach.
The pandemic did not hit during previous administrations, it hit during this one.
I heard an expert today that said if Brazil keeps going at this pace they could surpass the nation with the most deaths by fall. That would be us.
And that would be a pretty big fail if their right wing leader does so badly that they pass us with our right wing leader.
We certainly have terrible leadership. We could have done so much better, with so many people still alive who didn't have to die.
It's terrible to have this crisis and this need for really good leadership and to be stuck with DT instead.
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cancel2 2022 (06-22-2020)
None of that changes that he inherited a nation that had had hard Leftist, corrupt, leadership for decades. Something like this isn't a thing a nation deals with on the fly alone. Given that Brazil has very high rates of poverty and crime, its likely they'll be hard hit regardless of what the government does.
cancel2 2022 (06-22-2020)
Ape lives matter. Stop putting them in zoos. Boycott businesses that don't hire apes.
Then answered all the Jews, and said, Jesus' blood be on us, and on our children. So be it.
Jews want to turn America into an atheistic, amoral, socialist farmyard.
BLUEXITA Modest Proposal For Separating Blue States From Red
Dear Red-State Trump Voter,
Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.
It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.
This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america
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PoliTalker (06-23-2020)
Hello T. A. Gardner,
That's a good point. Wealth inequality is very extreme in Brazil. Many of the most impoverished citizens live in shameful normally disease-ridden tightly packed shanty towns as people like Bolsonaro enjoy luxury. There has been a well-conducted war on the poor there for eons. And if we don't turn the USA around, we could end up just like that. Wealth inequality in the USA has been growing steadily. I can't imagine what the powerful think out future will look like unless something is done to turn this troubling trend around. Already, we have many street people and homeless who cannot simply stay home during a shut down situation because they have no home to stay in. If people are too messed up mentally to work, our most common response to that is our prison system. This is only made worse by recalcitrant right wing politics.
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