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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    The GOP always harasses Dem voters in FL.
    In Pennsylvania, even local Republicans hate the poll watchers that the national Republicans send in to cause trouble.

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    In Texas, some of the judges carry pistols at the polls.

    Voting is always quiet there.
    Russian trolls and their supporters go on Ignore, automatically: no second chance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tacomaman View Post
    Infatuated trumpanzees cry like babies over possible voter fraud, but have no issue with gerrymandering. Outside of Klansmen, trumpstyle CONJOBservatives may be the most unamerican lot we have ever known. They only care about the Constitution when it benefits their own selfish agenda.


    Sad & true........
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Let's face facts here. Florida is a must win state for Trump. If he loses Florida he has to win every other state currently considered a tossup, MI, PA, NC, WI, AZ. Considering he is currently down in the polling by about 6 points in MI and PA, the chances of him winning both of those states is not likely which means he really needs to win Florida. But what are his chances?

    Currently Biden is polling with a 3 point lead in Florida. That is just the current period of time when Trump is looking bad for his leadership during the pandemic. If things turn around and jobs come back and the economy is roaring again in October that could change so I don't put much stock in the current polling.

    But there are a couple of other things to consider. Trump only beat Clinton by 113,000 votes in 2016. At the same time Jill Stein got 67,000 votes and Gary Johnson got 207,000 votes. The potential voters in Florida have been increased by over a million voters as felons have been given back the right to vote in Florida after the voters passed a constitutional amendment. The court ruling over the weekend has essentially said Florida can't prevent those people from voting without violating the US Constitution. The amendment to the Florida Constitution means the state legislature can't pass legislation to prevent them from voting. After the Republican legislature and governor have done everything they can to prevent those felons from getting their voting rights back those new voters certainly have no reason to support a Republican candidate.

    In past Presidential elections 72-75% of Florida's eligible voters have turned out to vote. If we assume everyone in Florida votes the same as last time and then add in the newly restored voters, it becomes hard for Trump to win the election in Florida. Even if 40% of those restored voters are willing to vote for a Republican there only needs to be a 60% turnout amongst them for Trump to lose Florida. If they turn out in the same percentages as the general population it only becomes harder for Trump. If they vote overwhelming against Republicans and have a large turnout Trump may lose Florida by over a million votes.

    At this point I would say any future polling in Florida will be suspect since we don't know about those new voters, how they will turn out and if they are included in any currrent or future polling or if the pollsters are relying on previous voting patterns to adjust polls. No matter how you look at it, I suspect Trump will need to be leading by 4-5 points in polls to have a chance to win Florida. That currently isn't the case and only time will tell if he can come back from his current deficit.
    That ship sailed in 2016, boy.

    Here's some other ships fer ya:





    (That's in FL, boy.)

    PS: The Dems are in trouble this year, a hella lot of illegals they used to use to vote have been deported. At least 40% are gone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post


    Sad & true........
    I will say this about tRump, he has managed to take the definition of the words "disgusting" and "hipocrisy" to all new levels. At the same time, making them socially acceptable to a good portion of the country.

    He has certainly eroded our moral fabric to a degree that it may take decades for us to recover from.

    I never expected to see a POTUS more morally corrupt than Nixon. tRump has managed to significantly lower that bar.

    I am not sure what disease these trumpanzee idiots suffer from. I just wake up every day thankful that I dont haven't. Then again, abortion issues dont run my life either.
    Please leave your Trump 2024 signs in your yard. That way, my dog will know where to take a dump.

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    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/florida/

    Trump has been trailing in every Florida poll this month by anywhere from 3 to 11 points. The last two polls show Biden leading by 6 and 4 points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    That ship sailed in 2016, boy.

    Here's some other ships fer ya:





    (That's in FL, boy.)

    PS: The Dems are in trouble this year, a hella lot of illegals they used to use to vote have been deported. At least 40% are gone!
    Puerto Ricans are US citizens. They don't get deported and if the live in Florida then can vote. A hella lot of Puerto Ricans moved to Florida after Trump threw paper towels to them after a hurricane.
    US Census Bureau estimates there are 1.1 million Puerto Ricans living in Florida currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    Look at Florida's history of questionable voting activity. It seems that with every election there is a few heavy Democrat precincts that have issue. From not allowing republican poll watchers to watch counts to finding and counting boxes of ballots in trunks of cars. Corruption is rampant in those precincts already.
    Corrupt already? 5 months before the election? What are you smoking? The primaries have shown the voter repression is alive and well. The Repubs will have to do it worse than they ever have before. Florida is famous for right-wing control of elections like Bush V Gore proved in public. It was revealing of ruthless Repub voter repression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Corrupt already? 5 months before the election? What are you smoking? The primaries have shown the voter repression is alive and well. The Repubs will have to do it worse than they ever have before. Florida is famous for right-wing control of elections like Bush V Gore proved in public. It was revealing of ruthless Repub voter repression.
    Yes Jeb manipulated the poll results in favor of his brother. That was bad. That was corrupt.

    Democrats are enemies of everything American, so that's bad too, in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tacomaman View Post
    Lmao. More ficticious voter fraud "psychobabble" from a trumpanzee that is getting more uncomfortable with each passing week.....lol
    right. because voter fraud doesn't exist. nobody believes your crazy anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    who's jerry mandarin?
    https://i.postimg.cc/PqVCnGks/gojoe1.jpg
    C'MON MAN!!!!

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    If Florida continues on it's current trajectory, Trump, DeSantis, Scott and Rubio will all be out of jobs the second the voters can fire them. I guess closing the bars will stop those young people from visiting anyone else. Good move, but not even CLOSE to enough. F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    If Florida continues on it's current trajectory, Trump, DeSantis, Scott and Rubio will all be out of jobs the second the voters can fire them. I guess closing the bars will stop those young people from visiting anyone else. Good move, but not even CLOSE to enough. F
    Rick Scott should have spent the past twenty years as a resident of Raiford.
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