6 Times You Have to Wear A Face Mask—And 3 Times You Don’t

[gfm7175]

On what do you base your "expert" opinion?

The specs of [insert mask here], the specs of the COVID-19 virus, and basic mathematics.

Here is the CDC's opinion.
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topi.../respsars.html

I don't care what the CDC opinion is. I am capable of thinking for myself.

[gfm7175]

LOL at you.

Laughing is not an argument.

So I should believe some anonymous brainwashed Trump Cult member

Bulverism is not valid argumentation.

over the CDC and every single virologist.

Appealing to "experts" does not make an argument correct. Invalid argumentation.
SOME virologists does not equal "every single virologist". You are making up numbers. Invalid argumentation.

No wonder you are so utterly ignorant.

You have yet to make a valid argument.

Your above statement is akin to declaring that 2+2 does not equal 4, and telling me you came to that because you don't believe the mathematicians and you can think for yourself.

Now you are attempting to compare a closed functional system with an open one. Also, math is not correct due to "believing the mathematicians".

I'd say that you are denying mathematics, but you seem to not even know what mathematics IS, nor how it works...

Sad.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Why you should wear a mask

Though the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends wearing face masks in public wherever you can't maintain social distancing measures, only a handful of states have hard and fast rules, so it's not surprising there is a lot of confusion about when—and if—you need to wear a mask. The CDC recommends you wear a mask to prevent transmitting the novel coronavirus to others, even when you don't feel sick. That's because you may have the virus and can pass it on to others before you experience any symptoms. To cut through the confusion as to when face masks are required, Reader's Digest consulted two infectious disease doctors to pinpoint the most important times you need to cover up—and when you can safely go without. Don't have a mask? Here's how to correctly DIY a face mask.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/...Bnb7Kz#image=1

An excellent summation of a not-very-difficult-to-grasp concept.

To put it in a blunter way -- the nasty anti-social Covidiots who don't wear masks are running around naked pissing on everyone else.

[Concart]

Laughing is not an argument.


Bulverism is not valid argumentation.


Appealing to "experts" does not make an argument correct. Invalid argumentation.
SOME virologists does not equal "every single virologist". You are making up numbers. Invalid argumentation.


You have yet to make a valid argument.


Now you are attempting to compare a closed functional system with an open one. Also, math is not correct due to "believing the mathematicians".

I'd say that you are denying mathematics, but you seem to not even know what mathematics IS, nor how it works...

Sad.

LOL, you have no idea what an 'appeal to argument' fallacy is, which is what makes you such a joke. You do amuse me though. You actually try. You fail, but you actually try. How sad. You are arguing against the advice of EVERY expert in the field. And you are a nobody.

[countryboy]

Reading comprehension seems to be lacking on your part.

Infectious material can only be on a mask if the mask is preventing you from breathing it in. Wearing a mask (and other protective equipment) protects you but you also have to be careful while removing the mask to be completely safe. Masks prevent primary transmission. Safety removing the mask prevents secondary transmission.

My point exactly, people aren't careful. Furthermore, loose fitting cloth masks do not filter out virus particles.

[BartenderElite]

My point exactly, people aren't careful. Furthermore, loose fitting cloth masks do not filter out virus particles.

How would you account for Hong Kong's incredible stats?

[Concart]

I'm so glad that the members of the Trump Cult are all virologists with extensive expertise in use of masks, social distancing, and the spread of viruses. Otherwise, where would I get my information? ROTLFMAO!!

[countryboy]

How would you account for Hong Kong's incredible stats?

Are they wearing loose fitting homemade cloth masks? Maybe they just have more common sense than Americans. Most of the people I see using masks are idiots.

What about all of the face touching with dirty hands? Do you think that's helpful?

[Walt]

The specs of [insert mask here], the specs of the COVID-19 virus, and basic mathematics.

You think COVID-19 comes with specs?

[Walt]

My point exactly, people aren't careful. Furthermore, loose fitting cloth masks do not filter out virus particles.

And yet the experimental and observational data is the exact opposite. Why should we believe you over the facts?

[Poor Richard Saunders]

The specs of [insert mask here], the specs of the COVID-19 virus, and basic mathematics.


I don't care what the CDC opinion is. I am capable of thinking for myself.

Ah..... so you prefer to ignore those that have done actual testing which is required to meet the specs. Or perhaps you are confused about how viruses are transmitted through the air.

It seems you have decided you can just make up how you think a mask will work with the virus and ignore all testing that shows the opposite of what you think.

[Walt]

Masks do not stop viruses. Even an N95 mask won't stop them. Even an N100 mask won't stop them.

Even the worst masks, made of a cotton shirt, have been proven to stop 50% of the viruses. An N-95 mask is going to stop a large percent of the virus. Nothing is 100%, but lowering transmission would mean we would, over time, win this war.

You are giving misinformation, and will cause us to lose this war.

[Walt]

Exactly. Thanks for confirming why the use of masks by the general public is a bad idea.

Infectious material deposited on personal protective equipment may cause it to become a vehicle for direct or indirect transmission. Therefore, care is needed when removing personal protective equipment to avoid contaminating skin, clothing, and mucous membranes.

That is a reason not to share PPE, not a reason not to use PPE.

[Poor Richard Saunders]

My point exactly, people aren't careful. Furthermore, loose fitting cloth masks do not filter out virus particles.

Because people aren't careful doesn't mean a properly fitted mask doesn't work. That would be like arguing that a circular saw doesn't work because some people don't know how to use it. Masks work when used properly. End of story.

Because so many people don't use masks properly, that is why the CDC is recommending that masks be worn to protect others. If you are using the mask to prevent your aerosols from being transmitted it doesn't matter if you touch your face and the mask since you are only transmitting your own fluids to yourself which means the mask is protecting others to some extent.

Testing has shown that loose fitting masks can filter about 80% of particulates. 80% isn't perfect but it is certainly better than 0%. For that matter if you were given a choice of 80% chance you will get a virus by not wearing a mask and 50% of getting the virus if you do wear a mask, which would you choose?

[Walt]

I don't care what the CDC recommends. I am capable of thinking for myself.

We have some idea of what the CDC's medical background is. We also know what the background of all the other virologists, and epidemiologists are.

What is your background? Why should we believe you above all other experts? You tell us that we should believe you above all others, well, give us a reason.