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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Then why lie about it?
    He didn’t. FBI notes show that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    He didn’t. FBI notes show that
    Nope. They show the opposite.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Nope. They show the opposite.
    Which version of the notes lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Which version of the notes lol?
    The real ones.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Nope. They show the opposite.
    COMPLETE LIE.


    JUST STOP THE BULLSHIT.


    THEY GOT CAUGHT, AND IT AIN'T GOING AWAY....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    So are all Ambassadors “operatives”?

    You realize given his role it is normal to reach out AFTER you have won the election? Only a dickhead partisan shitheel would make it a crime. Shit I forgot I was talking to you. My bad
    They STILL CLING TO RUSSIAPHOBIA!

    what was Flynn doing? he was trying to keep Putin from going tit for tat against a blizzard of sanctions from Obama.
    Flynn ( who was no "Russian operative" or whateverthefuck) correctly looked at China as the biggest threat to the USA

    Susan Rice and the rest of the histrionic Deep State creeps -flipped from supporting the "Russian reset"
    to demonization of Putin because of the Russian hoax.

    Flynn was correct; the Russian Hoaxers have the New Cold War 2.0 on their hands
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
    ________

    Cold War 2.0 Russia hysteria is turning people’s brains into guacamole.
    We’ve got to find a way to snap out of the propaganda trance
    ________

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Nope. They show the opposite.
    You haven't been paying attention. They have already been released. The agents who interviewed Flynn said they didn't think he was lying.

    But, Rachel Maddow hasn't you that so I understand how you can be uninformed

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    only in America dos a judge hire a lawyer!
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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jud...son-flynn-case
    U.S. District Court Judge Emmett G. Sullivan has taken the unusual step of hiring an attorney to represent him as an appeals court reviews his decision not to immediately grant the Justice Department's (DOJ's) request to dismiss its case against former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.

    Sullivan hired attorney Beth Wilkinson who, according to The Washington Post, is expected to notify the D.C. Court of Appeals within the next week of her decision to represent him. Wilkinson reportedly is a go-to for high-profile officials in difficult situations. For example, she previously represented then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh as he fought sexual misconduct allegations in 2018.

    The added representation compounded what has become an abnormal case, which is rooted in Flynn misleading the FBI about his contacts with Russia after the 2016 presidential election. Although Flynn pleaded guilty, he's currently seeking to withdraw that plea as the Justice Department argues that the FBI had an insufficient basis to interview him in the first place.

    Rather than granting the DOJ's dismissal, Sullivan appointed a retired judge to argue against the department’s position and to consider whether Flynn should be held in criminal contempt for perjury.

    Flynn's attorneys responded with an emergency petition Tuesday arguing that Sullivan had “egregiously” overstepped his authority. They argued that the judge “has no authority to adopt the role of prosecutor or change the issues in the case.”

    “This is an umpire who has decided to steal public attention from the players and focus it on himself,” the lawyers wrote. “He wants to pitch, bat, run bases, and play shortstop. In truth, he is way out in left field.” Flynn's lawyers are seeking to essentially bypass Sullivan in getting the case dismissed.

    Sullivan has scheduled arguments on the dismissal motion for July 16. In the meantime, the FBI has opened an internal review into how the bureau handled the investigation into Flynn -- something that caught renewed scrutiny after FBI notes showed the agency discussing whether it intended to "get him to lie."

    A long list of scholars, including Harvard law professor Laurence Tribe, signed onto a brief arguing against the DOJ's motion to dismiss.
    The FBI illegally leaked classified conversations between Flynn and Russian officials to create the appearance of collusion. They framed him even after having already acknowledged that he did nothing wrong and officially clearing him of any wrongdoing. They are on the record devising ways to “get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired.”

    They hid critical evidence that proved his innocence, blackmailed him by threatening to destroy his family, and invented a phony violation of an obscure 1799 law called the Logan Act (which didn’t even happen), to falsely railroad him to prison. Discredited Mueller hack Peter “insurance policy” Strzok, who was demoted over his humiliating misconduct and openly unprofessional partisanship, oversaw this travesty of justice.

    It was so clear to all involved that what they were doing was both illegal and immoral that Obama ordered National Security Adviser Susan Rice to write herself memos repeatedly insisting that she had told everyone to conduct themselves “by the book” in case they were ever investigated.

    And even when the DOJ dropped its case, the corrupt Clinton-appointed hack who helped frame Flynn in the first place contradicted his own rulings to pretend away the proof, committed an unprecedented abuse of power to continue dragging out this obscenely unjust lawlessness, and had to be ordered by an appeals court judge to stop stalling and rule on the motion to dismiss the case:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    If he was in the B. Hussein Yobabymama administration we never would have heard of the phone call
    THERE is MORE TO Flynn THAN JUST A PHONE CALL. So you can stop flapping your little wet hen wings as an irrelevat distraction right now! So you didn't even touch 1st base on your trip around the infield.

    Flynn is an ex-US General that became an agent for Russia and Turkey and didn't inform the US government as required. Then lied about it to the US justice and intelligence departments. Oh yes, he confessed and agreed to be an informant in a plea deal, but it was a little late don't you think?

    I'm not sure how I would have charged him if I were the prosecutor or judge in his case, if he was able to provide helpful information to the Justice Department in the Russian Probe. But to totally exonerate him for his reckless and dubious actions doesn't set a very good example for the rule of law and /or Our Justice department- or our military either. Not only that, but the money he accepted to become a foreign agent that he didn't report is considered Tax Fraud/Tax evasion in the current law books.

    Just the absurdity of a US General being corrupted enough to become an agent for Russia or Turkey is FUCKING BAD ENOUGH!

    It's insane and just further corruption of the Trump Administration and his appointed Justice Department officials!

    And that is what is shaping the 2020 presidential election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    You haven't been paying attention. They have already been released. The agents who interviewed Flynn said they didn't think he was lying.

    But, Rachel Maddow hasn't you that so I understand how you can be uninformed
    Yea. Sure. He lied. And then admitted to it. It doesn't matter what the agents 'thought' at the time. He lied.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post


    The FBI illegally leaked classified conversations between Flynn and Russian officials to create the appearance of collusion. They framed him even after having already acknowledged that he did nothing wrong and officially clearing him of any wrongdoing. They are on the record devising ways to “get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired.”

    They hid critical evidence that proved his innocence, blackmailed him by threatening to destroy his family, and invented a phony violation of an obscure 1799 law called the Logan Act (which didn’t even happen), to falsely railroad him to prison. Discredited Mueller hack Peter “insurance policy” Strzok, who was demoted over his humiliating misconduct and openly unprofessional partisanship, oversaw this travesty of justice.

    It was so clear to all involved that what they were doing was both illegal and immoral that Obama ordered National Security Adviser Susan Rice to write herself memos repeatedly insisting that she had told everyone to conduct themselves “by the book” in case they were ever investigated.

    And even when the DOJ dropped its case, the corrupt Clinton-appointed hack who helped frame Flynn in the first place contradicted his own rulings to pretend away the proof, committed an unprecedented abuse of power to continue dragging out this obscenely unjust lawlessness, and had to be ordered by an appeals court judge to stop stalling and rule on the motion to dismiss the case:

    Indeed.

    It's a moot issue now.

    President Trump:

    "General Flynn will be just fine."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Yea. Sure. He lied. And then admitted to it. It doesn't matter what the agents 'thought' at the time. He lied.
    such CRAP/
    The 302's show the interviewers (including Strzok) though Flynn was truthful -so why were they changed/re-written
    4 months later.. could it be for Mueller to leverage against Flynn??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...rview-n2569343
    Undercover Huber, who elaborated in-depth on the Manafort case mentioned above, did a lengthy Twitter thread about the FBI’s 302 on Flynn and why those who wanted to get Flynn and damage the Trump administration would want to keep this buried forever:

    Wed Nov 1, 2017: Flynn’s original lawyers Covington ask for a copy of his FD-302: “We don’t think he has committed a felony offense”

    Fri Nov 3, 2017: Covington ask for the FD-302 AGAIN: “We don’t think there’s a FARA violation. We don’t think he made false statements”

    The Special Counsel refused to turn over Flynn’s original FD-302 both those times. Instead, they schedule a follow up conference call with

    Covington for the following week and subtly threaten Covington that they might be a fact witness against Flynn for preparing his FARA filings

    Flynn hasnt pled guilty to anything at this point. His lawyers are adamant he’s *innocent*. And the SCO won’t even turn over the edited FD-302, never mind the original one, for them to look at

    The SCO claimed they couldn’t turn over the FD-302 because it would “reveal” parts of their overall Russia interference investigation. But even the edited version of the Jan 24, 2017 interview shows Flynn wasn’t asked about Russian interference or anything remotely like Collusion

    And we now know that the FBI itself wanted to close its Crossfire Razor investigation of Flynn for potential links to Russian interference long before that Jan 24, 2017 interview

    And that investigation of Flynn should never have been opened in the first place, given its laughably weak predicate lacking any articulable factual basis for believing he could have been colluding or conspiring with Russia

    We also now know that the Dec 29 Flynn-Kislyak call changed nothing with regards to any Collusion. And the FBI never opened a Logan Act criminal probe (which would also have been ridiculous)

    And in the Mueller report, the SCO itself admits Flynn merely asked Russia not to “escalate” in response to Obama’s sanctions or only respond “reciprocally”. There’s nothing wrong with that. What should he have said, go ahead nuclear armed Russia, please escalate?

    So the SCO wouldn’t be “revealing” anything legitimate about its Russian interference investigation by turning over Flynn’s FD-302 - any of them, even the heavily edited versions filed weeks after the interview

    Of course, what turning over the 302 would have really revealed is likely a document stating that the agents didn’t believe Flynn was lying, and metadata proving that it went through weeks of editing and polishing in violation of FBI policies

    If even Covington (never mind Sidney Powell) got their hands on any version of the 302, given their adamant position that Flynn was “innocent”, Flynn almost certainly would have fought the charges vigorously

    And if the SCO tried to indict Flynn anyway, that would have meant discovery, pre-trial depositions etc. Given what we now know 2.5 years later, that would have blown a gaping hole in the SCO’s case

    So back to Fri Nov 3, 2017. The SCO has been asked for the 302, twice.

    White shoe Covington say their guy is “innocent” of all charges. How do the SCO change the dynamic? They leak to the press that they’re going to charge his son with a felony unless he gives in and plead guilty

    Sun Nov 5, 2017: “Three sources” close to the Flynn investigation leak this to NBC news…

    By the time Covington follow up with the SCO after this weekend of light reading of veiled threats for the Flynn family, they’ve already agreed to bring Flynn in for a “proffer” - a prelude to pleading guilty to the false statements offense

    This is despite Covington circulating in internal memos at the time talking points that “We are firmly of the view that he did not commit any felony offenses. There are no circumstances under which he would plea to a felony offense”

    Remember: Covington - not Sidney Powell - are on record here REPEATEDLY saying their guy is *innocent*. They are “firmly” of this belief. And they’ve been representing him for months. This isn’t something they dreamed up after 5 minutes talking to the General

    The SCO turned over zero documents to Covington that would make them change their assessment of Flynn’s innocence. In fact, had the SCO turned *anything* over, it would have strengthened the view that Flynn could mount a strong defense against any false statement charge

    Examples:

    —Comey’s testimony that both agents didn’t think Flynn lied

    —302 - likely says the same thing

    —Closing EC for “Razor”, showing the FBI wanted to close its own case

    —Kislyak transcript

    —That no Logan Act EC existed opening a new case

    —Strzok/Page texts showing bias

    Any or all of those would blow a hole in *both* mandatory elements of the 1001 false statements charge - that any lie was “knowing” and “willful” (Flynn lied, deliberately) and “material” - i.e. could influence a genuine predicated FBI investigation

    Sidney Powell is part of Flynn’s new and aggressive legal team, who said in October that new documents would show an FBI entrapment plot.
    Well, that day arrived for sure. Flynn has fought to withdraw his guilty plea since the beginning of this year.
    Right now, his legal team has filed a new writ of mandamus to get this case tossed, the judge removed, and the amicus brief motion dismissed as well.

    Yeah, I forgot to mention that Sullivan decided he was going to allow every anti-Trump legal team in the world to file amicus briefs.
    The good news is that the DC Court of Appeals had every right to dismiss the writ outright, no questions asked.
    Instead, they’ve ordered Sullivan to respond to Powell’s writ personally and defend his actions regarding this case.
    Legal observers noted this is a huge development and a sign that Flynn’s legal team already passed a huge hurdle.
    Not only that, but the DC Court gave this judge the most serious method regarding a response.
    It’s quite clear that the DC Court of Appeals is disturbed by Sullivan’s actions.
    It seems that at least part of the writ might be granted and bring Flynn closer to putting this nightmare behind him.
    Yeah, that's all correct. Good research, man !

    If you trace all the twisted, tacit, devious, corrupt and flat out criminal "OBAMAGATE" threads back to their source, you find Obama was responsible orchestrating the whole three+ years of insane, political chaos. The plot to take out Flynn was concocted early in the "OBAMAGATE" scandal. Flynn had to go because as incoming NSA he would be able to quickly discover what Obama has been up to in terms of FBI, CIA illicit surveillance/unmasking, etc; in 2015/6 during Trump's campaign/inauguration and Presidency. With Flynn out of the way, destroying the Trump administration was Obsama and his minion next objective There's evidence of
    all this now from a meeting Obama held in the White House on the 5th January 2017. Present at the meeting with Obama were: Comey, Brennan, Mc Cabe, Biden, Yates, Rice and Co. The Steele Dossier was discussed, so was the Logan Act (in the context of ambushing Flynn). You just have to start putting lots of 2 and 2's together and eventually you can see what was going on - OBAMA was the leader of the coup (and VP Biden knew everything that was going on as well)

    As for Sullivan his extreme and aggressive political animus towards Flynn is a racial thing .Sullivan is an angry Black, so was Obama, its just that Obama was very "cool" and SLICK so most of the American public couldn't see him for what he was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    THERE is MORE TO Flynn THAN JUST A PHONE CALL. So you can stop flapping your little wet hen wings as an irrelevat distraction right now! So you didn't even touch 1st base on your trip around the infield.

    Flynn is an ex-US General that became an agent for Russia and Turkey and didn't inform the US government as required. Then lied about it to the US justice and intelligence departments. Oh yes, he confessed and agreed to be an informant in a plea deal, but it was a little late don't you think?

    I'm not sure how I would have charged him if I were the prosecutor or judge in his case, if he was able to provide helpful information to the Justice Department in the Russian Probe. But to totally exonerate him for his reckless and dubious actions doesn't set a very good example for the rule of law and /or Our Justice department- or our military either. Not only that, but the money he accepted to become a foreign agent that he didn't report is considered Tax Fraud/Tax evasion in the current law books.

    Just the absurdity of a US General being corrupted enough to become an agent for Russia or Turkey is FUCKING BAD ENOUGH!

    It's insane and just further corruption of the Trump Administration and his appointed Justice Department officials!

    And that is what is shaping the 2020 presidential election.
    An agent for Russia?

    ROFLMAO

    You have been duped by the media.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    COMPLETE LIE.


    JUST STOP THE BULLSHIT.


    THEY GOT CAUGHT, AND IT AIN'T GOING AWAY....
    Yes, that's right; coup - leader OBAMA and his "Deep State" goons GOT CAUGHT. And there's more hard evidence to come. Durham MUST indict OBAMA. But will that happen? Not likely, IMO. OBAMA will walk scott-free after orchestrating the biggest and most outrageous political crime in American history !


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