Guno צְבִי (05-24-2020), Phantasmal (05-24-2020), PoliTalker (05-24-2020)
I will drive the point home again and again. As soon as we started to 'bother' to track in Florida and a pattern emerged, I posted here and told my friends and acquaintances, SOMETHING IS WRONG, something is OFF. The #'s don't add up. I personally figured our LETHALITY rate had to be double than what was being reported. Even then I might have been low!
As Ron DeSantis hypes low numbers, Florida may be undercounting coronavirus deaths by up to 58%
A new model also projects that Florida will be hit hard over the next four weeks as the state reopens
IGOR DERYSH
MAY 22, 2020 7:42PM (UTC)
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis lashed out at the media Wednesday for criticizing his coronavirus response, claiming that his state had defied expectations even as a new analysis showed it might be undercounting deaths by up to 58%.
DeSantis, a Republican, countered criticisms of the firing of state health department's COVID-19 data chief by arguing that Florida had the "best data" among its 49 peers. The governor also touted that The governor also touted that than most regions in the country."People just don't want to recognize it, because it challenges their narrative," he claimed. "It challenges their assumption, so they've got to try and find a boogeyman."
But an analysis by the Tampa Bay Times and a health researcher at the University of South Florida found that Florida's death toll might be too good to be true. According to the findings, the "epidemic's true toll" might be between 17% and 58% higher than the reported numbers.
"Health experts say that likely includes some people who died of coronavirus but were never diagnosed, as well as others who might have lived had the pandemic not kept them from getting care," the Tampa Bay Times reported...
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/22/as-...s-by-up-to-58/
Last edited by Centerleftfl; 05-23-2020 at 10:36 AM.
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
Guno צְבִי (05-24-2020), Phantasmal (05-24-2020), PoliTalker (05-24-2020)
ROFL..DeSantis did it right. Look at our deaths and hospitalizations -those numbers are not fungible
"might be" is weasel words
Nordberg (05-23-2020)
Life is Golden (05-24-2020)
First reports released, left the #'s off, big white blanks, re-relased with numbers but BLACKED OUT. Hell, they should have just used a SHARPIE.
Florida released a list of coronavirus deaths. But key information is blacked out
“It boggles my mind," said the head of Florida’s Medical Examiners Commission.
The list of deaths released Wednesday by Florida officials was heavily redacted. This is the first page of the list. [Florida Department of Law Enforcement]
By Kathleen McGrory, Rebecca Woolington and Connie Humburg
Published May 6
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
Guno צְבִי (05-24-2020), PoliTalker (05-24-2020)
Rebekah Jones was fired for refusing to cook the books for Ron DeSantis, which makes me very suspicious that Florida is under reporting the number of cases and deaths.
Guno צְבִי (05-24-2020), Phantasmal (05-24-2020), PoliTalker (05-24-2020)
And the blatant BIG black boxes over 'cause of deaths.' We are what, the 3rd most populated state, and Desantis is CHEATING on death STATS.
We know they don't GIVE A SHIT about seniors, just a way to thin the herd. But will 53 MILLION people including their kids and grandkids all come to Disney like in a 'non pandemic' year?
PS I have 2 yearly conventions in Orlando, 1 in 3 months. No anouncements, schedules, hotel lists. Nothing. They usually start in MAR.
Last edited by Centerleftfl; 05-23-2020 at 04:47 PM.
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
Guno צְבִי (05-24-2020), PoliTalker (05-24-2020), Trumpet (05-23-2020)
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
An adept investigative reporter would look at the total number of Florida deaths from the same time period in previous years and compare that to the total number of deaths during 2020.
The state can play games with the cause, but unless they are simply failing to document deaths altogether they can't hide the numbers.
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Take it up to with the press consortium who went to the courts and demanded the PREVIOUSLY PUBLIC information be released. And the judge/judges said yes. As for ME and my zero evidence, why the fuck block out CAUSES OF DEATH? Some clerk made a typing error? Why was the database 'writer' FIRED? She LIED because she was looking for her 15 minutes of fame? (I know, I know, she must have been a DEMOCRAT).
I don't give a flying fuck what Birx said on this. Moreover why would she point out FLORIDA as having the most accurate data? Is she a resident and has a special interest? Did she do that for any other states?
I CALL BULLSHIT! And will continue to ask the same questions as I asked when we first published and I posted here, "something is wrong" our #s.
LET US NOT FORGET, TRUMP IS NOW A RESIDENT OF FLORIDA! A little incentive in a state he MUST WIN? Not to mention Desantis and Rick Scott BOTH have presidential aspirations.
ADDENDUM: Dr. BIRX lauded Fla's. database BEFORE Desantis started fucking with the #'s, before the young lady was fired because she refused to manipulate that data and 2 weeks BEFORE she was fired. Wonder when BIRX found out the data was manipulated? Wonder what Dr. Birx thought, out shilling for TRUMP and Desantis, through no fault of her own.
(One google search to blow FREE SPEECH's RW BS outta the water.
Last edited by Centerleftfl; 05-24-2020 at 06:57 AM.
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
You are pissing in the wind. You cannot do a credible study till you have at least 12 months worth of data. What is the leading cause of death in Florida? It sure ain't the coronavirus.
Funny how you lefties were saying this virus isn't as bad as the seasonal flu but now they are fudging the numbers. LMAO
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
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