Biden Says Black Voters ‘Ain’t Black’ if They’re Considering Trump

[cawacko]

Kind of a big "wow" statement. Just taking a step back it's a (privileged) white man trying to define how black people must think, act or behave to be considered black. Do we say that to people of any other race?

It's one thing if Biden said me and my policies would be better for the black community. Nothing wrong with that. But to say you wouldn't be considered black goes way beyond that and cuts much deeper. That sh*t is crazy to me.






Biden Says Black Voters ‘Ain’t Black’ if They’re Considering Trump

The former vice president ignited controversy in a testy exchange in a radio interview with Charlamagne Tha God on “The Breakfast Club.”


Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, outlined a slate of economic proposals Friday in a new television interview, but also ignited controversy by telling a radio host that black voters torn between voting for him and President Trump “ain’t black.”

In an interview with CNBC, Mr. Biden pledged Friday that he would repeal the tax cuts signed by the president in 2017 and raise the corporate tax rate, and that he would not raise taxes on anyone making less than $400,000, as he seeks to outline his plan for American economic recovery in the wake of the global coronavirus pandemic.

Mr. Biden gave some of his most detailed explanations of his economic policy. He rejected the idea that he would govern as an economic progressive, saying “I have a record of over 40 years, and I’m going to be Joe Biden. Look at my record.”

But it was his comments at the end of a testy exchange with Charlamagne Tha God, a host on “The Breakfast Club,” a nationally syndicated morning show popular with black millennials, that has dominated the conversation online. In the interview, during which the former vice president sidestepped a question about marijuana legalization and his running mate selection, Mr. Biden also made clear that he felt there was no reason black Americans would consider voting for Mr. Trump.

“If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump then you ain’t black,” Mr. Biden said.


The remark sparked immediate pushback on social media, with activists and conservatives jumping on Mr. Biden, 77, for acting as the arbiter of blackness. His words also exposed wounds among Democrats that date to 2016, when many leaders felt the party took black voters for granted.

Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, the only black Republican in the U.S. Senate, released a statement on Twitter, reminding Mr. Biden that “1.3 million black Americans already voted for Trump in 2016.”

“This morning, Joe Biden told every single one of us we ‘ain’t black,’” Mr. Scott said. “I’d say I’m surprised, but it’s sadly par for the course for Democrats to take the black community for granted and brow beat those that don’t agree.”

Symone Sanders, a senior adviser for Mr. Biden, later tweeted that the comments were in jest.


In another part of the interview, Mr. Biden assured the radio host that he intended to inspire black voters in the general election. Using the appeal that worked for him in the Democratic primary, Mr. Biden said black voters knew him and his record, and would value his close kinship with former President Barack Obama.

On Friday morning, during the interview with CNBC, Mr. Biden said he would raise the corporate tax rate to 28 percent, more than its current rate of 21 percent but less than it was before Mr. Trump’s legislation, which lowered it from 35 percent. Mr. Biden also said he thought large corporations like Amazon should begin to pay their taxes, though he sidestepped a question on whether the large conglomerate should be broken up by the government.

“I think Amazon should start paying their taxes,” Mr. Biden said. “I don’t think any company, I don’t give a damn how big they are, Lord Almighty, should absolutely be in a position where they pay no tax.”

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He continued: “What’s the capitalist system all about? The capitalist system is about everyone dealing fairly and dealing straight up with the American people and with their employees.”

The details come as Mr. Biden continues his transition from apparent primary winner to general election nominee. He is seeking to unite the party around a forward looking agenda that promises economic change, while matching the historic economic challenges now posed by the effects of the coronavirus pandemic.

The latest jobs report showed millions more workers joined the ranks of the unemployed this week, bringing the total of jobless claims to nearly 39 million in just over two months. Mr. Biden has tried to pin the devastation on Mr. Trump’s administration, saying that it did not respond quickly enough to the looming pandemic threat.

“His slowness is costing lives and costing jobs and costing our ability to rebound,” Mr. Biden said Friday.

However, Mr. Biden’s comments were met with some criticism, as several progressive Democrats questioned whether his outlined corporate tax rate — and his pledge to only raise taxes on Americans making more than $400,000 — was a sign he could not deliver the programs capable of expansive change. Mr. Biden has, at times, oscillated between moderate policy proposals and embracing the rhetoric of systemic upheaval, a choose-your-own-adventure strategy which can allow progressive and moderate allies to see in his campaign what they want.

In separate media interviews this week, Mr. Biden addressed his ongoing search for a running mate and his agenda for black Americans, a key constituency in the Democratic electorate that helped save his primary campaign. Several of the candidates on Mr. Biden’s vice-presidential short list have publicly confirmed they have spoken with his team, including Representative Val Demings of Florida and Senator Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire.

After a news report said that Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota had been contacted by his vice-presidential committee, Mr. Biden was asked about her on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.”

“No one has been vetted,” Mr. Biden said. “There is a team put together to go down a preliminary list of people, ask their interests, ask them general questions.”

Of Ms. Klobuchar, he said: “What you don’t want to do is let out all the names that you’re vetting because if someone is not chosen the presumption is not necessarily true that there must be something wrong. That’s not the process.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/u...fast-club.html

[volsrock]

Kind of a big "wow" statement. Just taking a step back it's a (privileged) white man trying to define how black people must think, act or behave to be considered black. Do we say that to people of any other race?

It's one thing if Biden said me and my policies would be better for the black community. Nothing wrong with that. But to say you wouldn't be considered black goes way beyond that and cuts much deeper. That sh*t is crazy to me.






Biden Says Black Voters ‘Ain’t Black’ if They’re Considering Trump

The former vice president ignited controversy in a testy exchange in a radio interview with Charlamagne Tha God on “The Breakfast Club.”


Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, outlined a slate of economic proposals Friday in a new television interview, but also ignited controversy by telling a radio host that black voters torn between voting for him and President Trump “ain’t black.”

In an interview with CNBC, Mr. Biden pledged Friday that he would repeal the tax cuts signed by the president in 2017 and raise the corporate tax rate, and that he would not raise taxes on anyone making less than $400,000, as he seeks to outline his plan for American economic recovery in the wake of the global coronavirus pandemic.

Mr. Biden gave some of his most detailed explanations of his economic policy. He rejected the idea that he would govern as an economic progressive, saying “I have a record of over 40 years, and I’m going to be Joe Biden. Look at my record.”

But it was his comments at the end of a testy exchange with Charlamagne Tha God, a host on “The Breakfast Club,” a nationally syndicated morning show popular with black millennials, that has dominated the conversation online. In the interview, during which the former vice president sidestepped a question about marijuana legalization and his running mate selection, Mr. Biden also made clear that he felt there was no reason black Americans would consider voting for Mr. Trump.

“If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump then you ain’t black,” Mr. Biden said.


The remark sparked immediate pushback on social media, with activists and conservatives jumping on Mr. Biden, 77, for acting as the arbiter of blackness. His words also exposed wounds among Democrats that date to 2016, when many leaders felt the party took black voters for granted.

Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, the only black Republican in the U.S. Senate, released a statement on Twitter, reminding Mr. Biden that “1.3 million black Americans already voted for Trump in 2016.”

“This morning, Joe Biden told every single one of us we ‘ain’t black,’” Mr. Scott said. “I’d say I’m surprised, but it’s sadly par for the course for Democrats to take the black community for granted and brow beat those that don’t agree.”

Symone Sanders, a senior adviser for Mr. Biden, later tweeted that the comments were in jest.


In another part of the interview, Mr. Biden assured the radio host that he intended to inspire black voters in the general election. Using the appeal that worked for him in the Democratic primary, Mr. Biden said black voters knew him and his record, and would value his close kinship with former President Barack Obama.

On Friday morning, during the interview with CNBC, Mr. Biden said he would raise the corporate tax rate to 28 percent, more than its current rate of 21 percent but less than it was before Mr. Trump’s legislation, which lowered it from 35 percent. Mr. Biden also said he thought large corporations like Amazon should begin to pay their taxes, though he sidestepped a question on whether the large conglomerate should be broken up by the government.

“I think Amazon should start paying their taxes,” Mr. Biden said. “I don’t think any company, I don’t give a damn how big they are, Lord Almighty, should absolutely be in a position where they pay no tax.”

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He continued: “What’s the capitalist system all about? The capitalist system is about everyone dealing fairly and dealing straight up with the American people and with their employees.”

The details come as Mr. Biden continues his transition from apparent primary winner to general election nominee. He is seeking to unite the party around a forward looking agenda that promises economic change, while matching the historic economic challenges now posed by the effects of the coronavirus pandemic.

The latest jobs report showed millions more workers joined the ranks of the unemployed this week, bringing the total of jobless claims to nearly 39 million in just over two months. Mr. Biden has tried to pin the devastation on Mr. Trump’s administration, saying that it did not respond quickly enough to the looming pandemic threat.

“His slowness is costing lives and costing jobs and costing our ability to rebound,” Mr. Biden said Friday.

However, Mr. Biden’s comments were met with some criticism, as several progressive Democrats questioned whether his outlined corporate tax rate — and his pledge to only raise taxes on Americans making more than $400,000 — was a sign he could not deliver the programs capable of expansive change. Mr. Biden has, at times, oscillated between moderate policy proposals and embracing the rhetoric of systemic upheaval, a choose-your-own-adventure strategy which can allow progressive and moderate allies to see in his campaign what they want.

In separate media interviews this week, Mr. Biden addressed his ongoing search for a running mate and his agenda for black Americans, a key constituency in the Democratic electorate that helped save his primary campaign. Several of the candidates on Mr. Biden’s vice-presidential short list have publicly confirmed they have spoken with his team, including Representative Val Demings of Florida and Senator Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire.

After a news report said that Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota had been contacted by his vice-presidential committee, Mr. Biden was asked about her on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.”

“No one has been vetted,” Mr. Biden said. “There is a team put together to go down a preliminary list of people, ask their interests, ask them general questions.”

Of Ms. Klobuchar, he said: “What you don’t want to do is let out all the names that you’re vetting because if someone is not chosen the presumption is not necessarily true that there must be something wrong. That’s not the process.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/u...fast-club.html

Preach it white Dim! Tell those blacks who to vote for.

Joe Biden’s comment that “you ain’t black” if you don’t
vote for Joe Biden is his way of saying “blacks must stay on the Democrat plantation”. Blacks are not allowed to think for themselves.

[volsrock]

“Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”

[cawacko]

Joe Biden’s comment that “you ain’t black” if you don’t
vote for Joe Biden is his way of saying “blacks must stay on the Democrat plantation”. Blacks are not allowed to think for themselves.

You're the last person who should be talking

[volsrock]

I bet they ain't clean and articulate either, huh Joe?

[TOP]

Poor Joe.....
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bide...ry?id=70834037
The "basement effect" is taking it's toll

[Earl]

Indeed, his handlers allowed Fingers Biden to say a few words and he exposed himself to be a racist who thinks Blacks can’t think for themselves.

He has messed in his mess gear.

Are you far left loons going to vote for a racist who denigrates Blacks and thinks they can’t think for themselves?

[Centerleftfl]

He's absolutely right. He has bonafides to pull it off. Yes, there were will be YOUNGER black men who won't buy it but not enough to switch a precinct nevertheless a state!

[cawacko]

He's absolutely right. He has bonafides to pull it off. Yes, there were will be YOUNGER black men who won't buy it but not enough to switch a precinct nevertheless a state!

Wait, Joe Biden has the bonafides as a white person to pull off that statement? Please, I would LOVE to hear this explanation.

[TOP]

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05...comment-924415

[Earl]

He's absolutely right. He has bonafides to pull it off. Yes, there were will be YOUNGER black men who won't buy it but not enough to switch a precinct nevertheless a state!

There were enough Black votes in 2016 to send a Hillary home to bake cookies and rid her home of old Bill’s bimbos.

There will be more this time.

[Earl]

TOP’s link:

“Wow,” Scott said in reaction.



“That is the most condescending, arrogant comment I’ve heard for a very long time. And that’s saying something,” the lawmaker told Fox Business host Stuart Varney, pointing out Biden’s history.“

[TOP]

TOP’s link:

“Wow,” Scott said in reaction.



“That is the most condescending, arrogant comment I’ve heard for a very long time. And that’s saying something,” the lawmaker told Fox Business host Stuart Varney, pointing out Biden’s history.“

I know.... More: "If you think about the numbers, 1.3 million African-Americans voted for Trump. He’s saying to 1.3 million African-Americans that you’re not black?” Scott asked. “Who in the heck does he think he is? That is the most arrogant, outrageous comment that I’ve heard in a very long time and I take offense to that.” There will be Plenty more who are offended...He sounds completely crazy.....

[Earl]

Fingers Biden is his own worst enemy.

His handlers should tape his mouth shut and hide him under his desk in his basement until Nov.

Of course, President Trump may have something to say about that...a lot to say about that.
.

[dukkha]

Mr. Biden gave some of his most detailed explanations of his economic policy. He rejected the idea that he would govern as an economic progressive

he would repeal the tax cuts signed by the president in 2017 and raise the corporate tax rate,

Joe is soo confused