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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Pro-tip: take a hike, proven sock.

    What happened to the “Respect” thread that you started and thread-banned a poster who was permanently banned FOUR years ago?
    Why are you obsessed with my thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    His only income these days is when he charges the taxpayer a fortune to have the Secret Service rent space at Mar A Lago. Which is why he golfs on his courses only.
    No doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Why are you obsessed with my thread?
    Oh. My. Gods. He's.... he's infected! He's behaving just like his cyberho Toxic TOP! Obsessed with members, obsessed with socks and banning... pEarl is just like her!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    HCQ has been safe and effective for 50 years. I guess the left doesn't want to try anything as a possible remedy for this virus.
    Stop spreading lies and misinformation.

    "Safe and effective" for specific medical conditions, and carefully monitored by physicians. It is NOT "safe and effective" for COVID-19 patients. It is only prescribed when the patient is close to death, and only in the hospital setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Most Republicans abhor him. It's the Nazi wing of the base that absolutely adores him. Along with those you referenced above. Uneducated fools who just love to see 'the opposition' angry.

    Never realizing that trump plays them for fools.
    94% of Republicans support Trump.
    Now you say "Republicans are Nazis" and your meme for the day is done

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Stop spreading lies and misinformation.

    "Safe and effective" for specific medical conditions, and carefully monitored by physicians. It is NOT "safe and effective" for COVID-19 patients. It is only prescribed when the patient is close to death, and only in the hospital setting.
    ignorance.
    Prescribing "when close to death" ( more correctly when the immune system is already in cytokine storm phase)
    doesn't help, and may aggravate underlying conditions.

    I don't know how many time it has to be repeated -but it has to be given early.
    At first symptom or even first positive ( since it's safe when given to otherwise healthy patients)
    It has to be given with zinc and/or ZPAK for effective use

    When given early it interferes with viral replication, and shortens the duration and intensity of the illness

    So now you know even if you have read the same thing 20 times from me. Try to not go back to memes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    HCQ has been safe and effective for 50 years. I guess the left doesn't want to try anything as a possible remedy for this virus.
    60 years. but yes it's widely used with out any side effects for most

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    LET US NOT FORGET THE BIG PICTURE HERE. We and the world spent 2 - 2 1/2 months going down TRUMP'S rabbit hole. MORE TIME LOST!

    Day 2 after Trump started TOUTING his snake oil theory, this amateur posted the contraindications of his CHOSEN drug right out of the PDR. I stated that was a shitload of contraindications on a 60 year old drug and I NOTED at the time people with HEART DISEASE, DIABETES and alcoholism--active or sober--were major groups which could be precluded from using it. AND that represented a shitload of the US population. My instincts were dead on (no pun intended). Heart arrhythmias lead to sudden heart attacks and STROKES. Surely you have seen the ads. Seems a pretty important 'side effect' to me.

    They didn't have the luxury of a double blind study. But HONEST #'s like this don't lie. Of course I guess 6 continents and all the medical institutions could have 'colluded' to change medical records and numbers. Sure! That'll be the next conspiracy theory. Stay tuned...

    “It’s one thing not to have benefit, but this shows distinct harm,”

    Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients, study says

    An analysis of 96,000 patients shows those treated with hydroxychloroquine were also more likely to suffer irregular heart rhythms


    President Trump on May 18 said that he has been taking the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine as a preventive measure against the coronavirus. (The Washington Post)

    By Ariana Eunjung Cha and
    Laurie McGinley

    May 22, 2020 at 8:28 a.m. EDT

    The Washington Post is providing this important information about the coronavirus for free. For more free coverage of the coronavirus pandemic, sign up for our daily Coronavirus Updates newsletter where all stories are free to read.

    A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received an antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.

    People treated with hydroxychloroquine, or the closely related drug chloroquine, were also more likely to develop a type of irregular heart rhythm, or arrhythmia, that can lead to sudden cardiac death, it concluded.

    The study, published Friday in the medical journal the Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of the risks and benefits of treating covid-19 patients with antimalarial drugs. It is based on a retrospective analysis of medical records, not a controlled study in which patients are divided randomly into treatment groups — a method considered the gold standard of medicine. But the sheer size of the study was convincing to some scientists.

    “It’s one thing not to have benefit, but this shows distinct harm,” said Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute. “If there was ever hope for this drug, this is the death of it.”

    David Maron, director of preventive cardiology at the Stanford University School of Medicine, said that “these findings provide absolutely no reason for optimism that these drugs might be useful in the prevention or treatment of covid-19.”

    Past studies also found scant or no evidence of hydroxychloroquine’s benefit in treating sick patients, while reports mounted of dangerous heart problems associated with its use. As a result, the Food and Drug Administration last month warned against the use of the drug outside hospital settings or clinical trials

    The new analysis — by Mandeep Mehra, a Harvard Medical School professor and physician at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, and colleagues at other institutions — included patients with a positive laboratory test for covid-19 who were hospitalized between Dec. 20, 2019, and April 14, 2020, at 671 medical centers worldwide. The mean age was 54 years, and 53 percent were men. Those who were on mechanical ventilators or who received remdesivir, an antiviral drug made by Gilead Sciences that has shown promise in decreasing recovery times, were excluded.

    Mehra said in an interview that the widespread use of antimalarials for covid-19 patients was based on the idea of “a desperate disease demands desperate measures," but that we have learned a hard lesson from the experience about the importance of first doing no harm.

    In retrospect, Mehra said, using the drugs without systematic testing was “unwise.”

    “I wish we had had this information at the outset,” he said, “as there has potentially been harm to patients.”

    Nearly 15,000 of the 96,000 patients in the analysis were treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine alone or in combination with a type of antibiotics known as a macrolide, such as azithromycin or clarithromycin, within 48 hours of their diagnosis.

    The difference between patients who received the antimalarials and those who did not was striking.

    For those given hydroxychloroquine, there was a 34 percent increase in risk of mortality and a 137 percent increased risk of a serious heart arrhythmias. For those receiving hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic — the cocktail endorsed by Trump — there was a 45 percent increased risk of death and a 411 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...navirus-study/
    THE POOR, DESPERATE LEFTIDIOTS AT "THE LANCET" ARE STILL TRYING TO PRETEND THEY ARE RELEVENT IN MEDICAL CIRCLES !!
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Stop spreading lies and misinformation.

    "Safe and effective" for specific medical conditions, and carefully monitored by physicians. It is NOT "safe and effective" for COVID-19 patients. It is only prescribed when the patient is close to death, and only in the hospital setting.
    LOL

    It works best when given to patients AT THE ONSET. It has little to no effect on the seriously ill.
    You're thinking of ventilators, which are used when just about all hope is gone. People take it for lupas,
    malaria and a few other autoimmune diseases and have for 50 years. It's FDA approved.
    Nobody around here had a problem with Mario The Pius getting 750,000 doses of chloroquine,
    70,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine and 10,000 doses of Zithromax for a NY trial a month ago.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Trump was hunting for a snake oil cure he could sell to the people to mitigate the obvious damage from his mishandling Corona. It isn't so bad. You take this and it goes away. You can ignore it now. Corona will not get you. Hydroxy was his choice if you are not counting injecting disinfectants and internal light therapy.,
    Rightys simply cannot say WTF is he talking about. They immediately try to find a way to justify it. If Trump says it, they will back it. We know hydroxy will harm and perhaps kill people. But if it helps Trump in 2020 it is worth it to rightys. They sell those lives like they peddle their integrity.
    I feel sorry for rightys . They give away so much to keep the con rolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    LOL

    It works best when given to patients AT THE ONSET. It has little to no effect on the seriously ill.
    You're thinking of ventilators, which are used when just about all hope is gone. People take it for lupas,
    malaria and a few other autoimmune diseases and have for 50 years. It's FDA approved.
    Nobody around here had a problem with Mario The Pius getting 750,000 doses of chloroquine,
    70,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine and 10,000 doses of Zithromax for a NY trial a month ago.
    Joanie knows more than the NHS, she's such a bull shitter!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cal-trial.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump was hunting for a snake oil cure he could sell to the people to mitigate the obvious damage from his mishandling Corona. It isn't so bad. You take this and it goes away. You can ignore it now. Corona will not get you. Hydroxy was his choice if you are not counting injecting disinfectants and internal light therapy.,
    Rightys simply cannot say WTF is he talking about. They immediately try to find a way to justify it. If Trump says it, they will back it. We know hydroxy will harm and perhaps kill people. But if it helps Trump in 2020 it is worth it to rightys. They sell those lives like they peddle their integrity.
    I feel sorry for rightys . They give away so much to keep the con rolling.
    You're such a whiny cunt, remorseless in fact. Who should I believe a whiny bugger like you or the NHS, hmm, tough choice!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cal-trial.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    LOL

    It works best when given to patients AT THE ONSET. It has little to no effect on the seriously ill.
    You're thinking of ventilators, which are used when just about all hope is gone. People take it for lupas,
    malaria and a few other autoimmune diseases and have for 50 years. It's FDA approved.
    Nobody around here had a problem with Mario The Pius getting 750,000 doses of chloroquine,
    70,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine and 10,000 doses of Zithromax for a NY trial a month ago.
    Obviously that degree in dogfish dissection isn't all it's cracked up to be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    60 years. but yes it's widely used with out any side effects for most
    It was first licenced for use in 1955.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump was hunting for a snake oil cure he could sell to the people to mitigate the obvious damage from his mishandling Corona. It isn't so bad. You take this and it goes away. You can ignore it now. Corona will not get you. Hydroxy was his choice if you are not counting injecting disinfectants and internal light therapy.,
    Rightys simply cannot say WTF is he talking about. They immediately try to find a way to justify it. If Trump says it, they will back it. We know hydroxy will harm and perhaps kill people. But if it helps Trump in 2020 it is worth it to rightys. They sell those lives like they peddle their integrity.
    I feel sorry for rightys . They give away so much to keep the con rolling.
    And, Mario went for the "snake oil" as well.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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