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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The topic of the post was the accuracy of the polls.
    There is none. Polls are completely meaningless.
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    Since polls on measure popular votes it is the only relevant issue.
    An equally meaningless poll.
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    Polls are not meant to "predict" but are only responses to the questions on that day.
    Still meaningless. Idiots like you quote polls that predict all the time, too.
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    There was nothing "manufactured" since the 3% lead in the polls was exactly the final result.
    Argument from randU fallacy. A completely random number of type randU.
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    Polls are very relevant
    Not a bit of it.
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    for those who follow and discuss them in the media and sites like JPP,
    The media only uses 'polls' to try to change opinion, not measure it. Idiots on JPP quote these random numbers as if they were data. They aren't.
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    and for political campaigns who make great use of them to determine strategy.
    Meaningless there too. The only 'strategy' one needs to be concerned with is the planks of your campaign.
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    Polls have won elections as in Nixon's Southern Strategy and Clinton's Triangulation strategy.
    Polls have won nothing. They are completely meaningless.
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    Polls were also very useful to the Trump campaign that used them to determine battleground states to target for Trump rallies and campaign advertising.
    All States are battleground States.
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    Without polls nobody would know which states are "battleground."
    All States are battleground States. All States can contribute to the Electoral College.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    Let me Guess: The Poll doesn’t tell you what you want to hear, therefore it’s FAKE
    A poll doesn't tell anybody anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    All States are battleground States. All States can contribute to the Electoral College.
    The Trump campaign should spend as much time and money campaigning in CA and NY as they do on FL, WI, MI, or PA?

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    Every poll, even Fox News polls over sample dems. Just more part of the Leftist media mob's attempt at sabotaging the Republic.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The media only uses 'polls' to try to change opinion, not measure it.
    If polls are meaningless they obviously cannot change opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The Trump campaign should spend as much time and money campaigning in CA and NY as they do on FL, WI, MI, or PA?
    False dichotomy fallacy. Trump will spend his campaign money and time where he wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    If polls are meaningless they obviously cannot change opinion.
    The do change opinions of morons like you, that have a god like belief in polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Trump is losing voters he badly needs, 65+ and women.
    i have made multiple posts about the 65+

    women aren't as important, though the ratios are obviously bad for him. but he won last time without big women support.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Every poll, even Fox News polls over sample dems. Just more part of the Leftist media mob's attempt at sabotaging the Republic.
    they weight polls. anyone that says this doesn't understand stats.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    False dichotomy fallacy. Trump will spend his campaign money and time where he wants.
    A no-answer fallacy. The question was whether he will spend as much time and money in CA and NY as he will in battleground states. We know he (meaning his campaign managers) will decide where to spend it, but we know it is a waste of time and money in CA and the election will probably be decided in battleground states (those that are very close).

    How will the campaign know which states are close? Polls. That shows their value. And which voters will his campaign target in those battleground states? Polls will give them that information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The do change opinions of morons like you, that have a god like belief in polls.
    If they can change my opinion then those polls are not meaningless--they are producing votes.

    But that is a huge fallacy on your part because you are making the unfounded assumption I am voting for the person (winning or losing) in the polls. But both you and I and most JPP posters knew who we would vote for in 2020 four years ago, so polls are not going to change that.

    You give the media an exaggerated power. You think people are going to decide how to vote based on what the polls say? That shows complete lack of knowledge about voting behavior of the American public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    A no-answer fallacy.
    Mockery. Denial of logic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The question was whether he will spend as much time and money in CA and NY as he will in battleground states.
    False dichotomy fallacy. The question isn't valid.
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    We know he (meaning his campaign managers) will decide where to spend it,
    No, he will. He is in charge of all of his campaign managers and staff.
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    but we know it is a waste of time and money in CA and the election will probably be decided in battleground states (those that are very close).
    He is campaigning in California. He even visited California in February during a campaign stop.
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    How will the campaign know which states are close?
    Currently elected party affiliation and behavior.
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    Polls.
    Nope. Polls are completely meaningless.
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    That shows their value.
    They have no value.
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    And which voters will his campaign target in those battleground states?
    All States are battleground States. He is targeting all voters.
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    Polls will give them that information.
    Polls will give him no information at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    It was very accurate. The polls showed the same result as the actual vote count.

    There is no evidence of illegal immigrants voting--that is just Trump fake news.
    You've repeatedly been proven wrong on this and just keep lying about it.

    Again (and we can post this every time you try to pretend you weren't proven wrong), the examples of rampant Democrat voter fraud, including illegal immigrant voting, already repeatedly provided:

    GA Secy of State office announces probe of alleged hacking attempt into voter registration

    San Francisco Registers 49 Noncitizen Voters—at a Cost of More Than $6,300 Each

    Nebraska Democrats 'Welcome' Refugees...With Voter Registration Forms

    Maryland county's count suggests noncitizens voting across U.S.

    Turns Out, Noncitizens Did Vote In November, Only Question Is How Many?

    Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016

    Study Claims Up To 2.8 Million Non-Citizens Voted In 2008

    Orange County vote count suggests fraud

    Skid Row voter fraud Prosecutors homeless offered cash cigarettes exchange hundreds

    It Sure Looks Like Democrats in Florida Altered Ballots

    Democrat-Directed Voter Fraud Uncovered In Florida

    Report: Palm Beach Recount Is Missing A ‘Substantial’ Number Of Votes

    Democratic Operative Explains Voter Fraud: We've Been Busing People in for 50 years

    Arrest Florida election supervisor for voter fraud!

    2012 Election: Nearly 200,000 Florida Voters May Not Be Citizens

    Voting problems emerge across America

    Poll officials allow 'tons' of illegals to vote

    The people behind that Texas voter fraud ring have been identified

    New Voter Fraud Cases Show Need to Secure Our Elections

    Instances of Voter Fraud Continue to Mount, Further Compromising Our Elections

    Twelve Employees of Dem-tied Group Charged in Indiana for Voter Registration Fraud

    DOJ whistleblower: Obama years were 'Wild West' of voter fraud

    23 Voter Fraud Cases from 2016 and Beyond

    Kansas Prosecuting Illegal Immigrant For Casting Vote

    Hundreds Of Non-Citizens Registered To Vote In Ohio, Investigation Finds

    Report: Massive Voter Fraud Uncovered in Nevada

    Recount uncovers serious fraud in Detroit




    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Yep, they were very accurate. But perhaps Arminus is giving them even MORE credit. According to him they were accurately able to predict that massive democratic voter fraud and the exact impact on the popular vote. You can't make up that kind of dumb.
    Dumb is trying to pretend away the extensive level of already documented Democrat cheating (provided above) it took to get ANYWHERE NEAR where the polls said Democrats would be in that election. And that doesn't even take into account how many votes it cost conservatives when Democrats illegally hijacked and weaponized every part of the government against the them for partisan gain (see Lois Lerner pleading the 5th to avoid criminal prosecution for rigging elections by hindering conservative groups, Obama targeting conservative donors with fraudulent prosecutions, etc.) like the lawless, tyrannical extremists they constantly falsely accuse President Trump of being for fighting back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post

    They have no value.

    All States are battleground States. He is targeting all voters.

    Polls will give him no information at all.
    This is not how campaigns operate. Trump's campaign made extensive use of polls, technology, and models based on turnout figures.

    His visits to CA were primarily to raise money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
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    You've repeatedly been proven wrong on this and just keep lying about it.

    Again (and we can post this every time you try to pretend you weren't proven wrong), the examples of rampant Democrat voter fraud, including illegal immigrant voting, already repeatedly provided:
    My reference was to illegal immigrants voting. Almost all your articles refer to "non-citizens" (not illegals) and all those numbers were very small. The San Francisco article says illegals are eligible to vote in school board elections but not federal elections. Those articles specifically referring to illegals gave no evidence, just somebody speculating. The Kansas example used a headline that said "illegal" but the article actually said non-citizen and it was only prosecuting one person. Trump's claim of 3 million was pure trash.

    Using sources such as the Daily Caller are not credible.

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