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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Trump is losing voters he badly needs, 65+ and women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    This. If there are more Democrats than Republicans, more Democrats will appear in the sample. That's how polling works. Apparently, this is another skill that the Trump Cult is lacking.
    That is true if polls could be a truly random sample, but that is impossible. They do stratified random samples where people are called in designated areas to insure proper representation of various groups. The higher percentage of Democrats is built into the sample.

    Some of the polls use the same raw data but differ in the results based on how they handle issues like likely voters, registered voters, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    That is true if polls could be a truly random sample, but that is impossible. They do stratified random samples where people are called in designated areas to insure proper representation of various groups. The higher percentage of Democrats is built into the sample.

    Some of the polls use the same raw data but differ in the results based on how they handle issues like likely voters, registered voters, etc.
    If that was true, those pollsters would reveal their bias. But it is true to only a small extent, and the bias goes both ways depending on the pollster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Hillary Clinton never had the lead in 2016. Donald Trump was elected President. Perhaps you didn't notice.
    Yes, the final polls showed her with a 3% lead. They only poll popular votes (not electors). In the final count she had 3% more popular votes than Trump meaning the polls were right on the money.

    We know who won the presidency, my statement was only about poll results and actual popular vote outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post


    That didn't "prove accurate." Democrats have to cheat with fake absentee ballots, "early voting" scams, ballot harvesting, and automatic voter registration for illegal immigrants to even STAY IN THE GAME.
    It was very accurate. The polls showed the same result as the actual vote count.

    There is no evidence of illegal immigrants voting--that is just Trump fake news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    If that was true, those pollsters would reveal their bias. But it is true to only a small extent, and the bias goes both ways depending on the pollster.
    They do reveal their polling methods in the methodology section of the full reports. If polls are biased nobody is going to hire them if they want accurate results. If they want biased results for public consumption that usually comes from "internal polling" or that done by partisan organizations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    It was very accurate. The polls showed the same result as the actual vote count.

    There is no evidence of illegal immigrants voting--that is just Trump fake news.
    Yep, they were very accurate. But perhaps Arminus is giving them even MORE credit. According to him they were accurately able to predict that massive democratic voter fraud and the exact impact on the popular vote. You can't make up that kind of dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Polls do not work. They are completely meaningless.
    But the usually accurately predict the final results.

    If they were meaningless campaigns would not spend millions on pollsters to find who to target in their campaigning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Yes, the final polls showed her with a 3% lead. They only poll popular votes (not electors). In the final count she had 3% more popular votes than Trump meaning the polls were right on the money.
    Argument from randU fallacy. Irrelevance fallacy. We do not elect the President by popular vote.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    We know who won the presidency, my statement was only about poll results and actual popular vote outcome.
    Poll results are completely meaningless. The 'prediction' of Hillary and how much she supposedly took in the 'popular vote' is also meaningless.

    Manufactured numbers are not data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Argument from randU fallacy. Irrelevance fallacy. We do not elect the President by popular vote.

    Poll results are completely meaningless. The 'prediction' of Hillary and how much she supposedly took in the 'popular vote' is also meaningless.

    Manufactured numbers are not data.
    The topic of the post was the accuracy of the polls. Since polls on measure popular votes it is the only relevant issue. Polls are not meant to "predict" but are only responses to the questions on that day.

    There was nothing "manufactured" since the 3% lead in the polls was exactly the final result.

    Polls are very relevant for those who follow and discuss them in the media and sites like JPP, and for political campaigns who make great use of them to determine strategy. Polls have won elections as in Nixon's Southern Strategy and Clinton's Triangulation strategy.

    Polls were also very useful to the Trump campaign that used them to determine battleground states to target for Trump rallies and campaign advertising. Without polls nobody would know which states are "battleground."

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    Let me Guess: The Poll doesn’t tell you what you want to hear, therefore it’s FAKE
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