The truth of the howler monkey brigades and their mask rights.

[Charoite]

Congratulations, you don't have to wear a mask. Well, on your terms of rights. Store owners, employers, city officials, etc have rights to and just like at your home people can't just walk in and tell you what to do. All these things have owners with their house rights themselves. As much as you have the right not to have to wear a mask in your house they have the right that you have to if you want to be in their facility. It's that simple people. That means restaurants, employers, etc have their right to bar you the privilege of using their facilities. Now you can go crawl back home where your rights are on top.

[Doc Dutch]

Congratulations, you don't have to wear a mask. Well, on your terms of rights. Store owners, employers, city officials, etc have rights to and just like at your home people can't just walk in and tell you what to do. All these things have owners with their house rights themselves. As much as you have the right not to have to wear a mask in your house they have the right that you have to if you want to be in their facility. It's that simple people. That means restaurants, employers, etc have their right to bar you the privilege of using their facilities. Now you can go crawl back home where your rights are on top.

Another reason why the Democrats fucked everyone by disallowing business owners the right to refuse service to anyone they feel like.

[Charoite]

Another reason why the Democrats fucked everyone by disallowing store owners to refuse service to anyone they feel like.

That has zero to do with regulation or a bakers rights. That has to do with the fulfillment of the contract of services provided. It was a mandate put in place at the end of segregation for obvious reasons. You are playing on the cities rights there and their house rules. If you provide a service you can't deny it based on race, gender, or any other factor of who a person is as a human being. To operate a business in public adherence to this is non-negotiable. If you make wedding cakes, etc you have to provide the same thing across those lines.

[Doc Dutch]

That has zero to do with regulation or a bakers rights. That has to do with the fulfillment of the contract of services provided. It was a mandate put in place at the end of segregation for obvious reasons. You are playing on the cities rights there and their house rules. If you provide a service you can't deny it based on race, gender, or any other factor of who a person is as a human being. To operate a business in public adherence to this is non-negotiable. If you make wedding cakes, etc you have to provide the same thing across those lines.

Disagreed. Business establishments should be able to refuse service to anyone; in this case for public health reasons.

[AProudLefty]

Disagreed. Business establishments should be able to refuse service to anyone; in this case for public health reasons.

A compromise would be a limited experiment and let the free market decide.

[Charoite]

Disagreed. Business establishments should be able to refuse service to anyone; in this case for public health reasons.

If that were the law of the land black people would have been nearly disenfranchised in much of the South through into today. Basically they'd be segregated still. No fucking way. You are in the cities house when you run a business. You can abide by law or they can take away your license to operate in their community.

[Granule]

That has zero to do with regulation or a bakers rights. That has to do with the fulfillment of the contract of services provided. It was a mandate put in place at the end of segregation for obvious reasons. You are playing on the cities rights there and their house rules. If you provide a service you can't deny it based on race, gender, or any other factor of who a person is as a human being. To operate a business in public adherence to this is non-negotiable. If you make wedding cakes, etc you have to provide the same thing across those lines.

Thus sayeth the perverts.

The truth is, bakers, or any other shop owners, should have the right to kick any ass out of their place of business at any time.

[domer76]

Another reason why the Democrats fucked everyone by disallowing business owners the right to refuse service to anyone they feel like.

You’re talking about civil rights laws against protected groups versus a policy that applies to everybody.

[domer76]

Disagreed. Business establishments should be able to refuse service to anyone; in this case for public health reasons.

Your “should” does not pass constitutional muster. Sorry, you failed.

[domer76]

Thus sayeth the perverts.

The truth is, bakers, or any other shop owners, should have the right to kick any ass out of their place of business at any time.

They don’t have that right, do they, moron?

Another ignorant RW failure.

[Charoite]

Part of me wonders if the anti-mask simps even understand store and restaurant regulations. Hell, how many years have we had the classic no shirt, no shoes, no service.

[Doc Dutch]

If that were the law of the land black people would have been nearly disenfranchised in much of the South through into today. Basically they'd be segregated still. No fucking way. You are in the cities house when you run a business. You can abide by law or they can take away your license to operate in their community.

Sorry, but that's Yankee prejudice against Southern Whites. This isn't 1950 down here. Business is business. Yes, there will always be a few knuckleheads, but most people are more interested in minding their own business and making money to feed the family.

Any businessman who turns away customers based on bigotry and prejudice is soon to be an out-of-business businessman. Think of all the Yelp reviews and his that business's competitors would clean up.

I don't like the idea of forcing people to do the morally right thing. It's not any government's place, especially an American government. A better way, IMO, is to set and enforce standards of conduct for businesses to qualify for government loans, tax breaks and, as in COVID, government subsidies/impact checks. If an asshole businessman won't serve a group of people because of their race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc, fine....but no government help for them. They foot all of their own bills and pay full tax.

[FreeSpeech]

Congratulations, you don't have to wear a mask. Well, on your terms of rights. Store owners, employers, city officials, etc have rights to and just like at your home people can't just walk in and tell you what to do. All these things have owners with their house rights themselves. As much as you have the right not to have to wear a mask in your house they have the right that you have to if you want to be in their facility. It's that simple people. That means restaurants, employers, etc have their right to bar you the privilege of using their facilities. Now you can go crawl back home where your rights are on top.

Public buildings aren't "their" buildings they're our buildings. That being said I wear a mask and did so even when the administrative state was telling us not to as I was already prepped with a charcoal filter mask from years ago.

[Doc Dutch]

Part of me wonders if the anti-mask simps even understand store and restaurant regulations. Hell, how many years have we had the classic no shirt, no shoes, no service.

My guess is no. Either they are too stupid or are mentally ill. Lots of them running around and the Democrats don't give a shit. Too busy trying to ban guns, donchaknow.

[Doc Dutch]

You’re talking about civil rights laws against protected groups versus a policy that applies to everybody.

I'm talking about the overreach of government on moral issues. There are better, smarter ways rather than always using a hammer. The Democrats are known for it. Look at the social-distancing arrests, the ban on 36 oz drinks. Democrats loooooove an authoritarian culture.