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    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is conflating the results of two different types of coronavirus tests, distorting several important metrics and providing the country with an inaccurate picture of the state of the pandemic.

    We’ve learned that the CDC is making, at best, a debilitating mistake: combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus. The upshot is that the government’s disease-fighting agency is overstating the country’s ability to test people who are sick with COVID-19. The agency confirmed to The Atlantic on Wednesday that it is mixing the results of viral and antibody tests, even though the two tests reveal different information and are used for different reasons.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-texas/611935/
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    How can these people be so dumb?

    The CDC is putting spot test results in with serum antibody test results. How can they NOT know to not do that? It will lead to an artificial increase in case counts—and worthless data.

    CDC apologists: the CDC is either incredibly inept or they are plain stupid. Or they have agenda. Pick one.

    So all those rising case numbers ‘that are suddenly exploding in a timely fashion’ are questionable, at best.

    This is also another reason to ignore case numbers and track hospitalizations.
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    Testing has gone rampant.
    A huge percentage have some vestage but never are effected.
    Means nothing.
    People who were in poor health are at risk to get sicker from everything, this included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Testing has gone rampant.
    A huge percentage have some vestage but never are effected.
    Means nothing.
    People who were in poor health are at risk to get sicker from everything, this included.
    Case counting has become like vote counting.

    The whole point to the lockdown was to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed, anyway.
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    Are you at all alarmed by Trump's open admission that he doesn't want to test more because it will inflate the #'s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Are you at all alarmed by Trump's open admission that he doesn't want to test more because it will inflate the #'s?
    That’s interesting but the OP is on the CDC and not Trump.

    Can you think of a good reason why anyone would bundle spot test numbers in with the serum antibody test numbers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    That’s interesting but the OP is on the CDC and not Trump.

    Can you think of a good reason why anyone would bundle spot test numbers in with the serum antibody test numbers?
    I think we're being subjected to gas lighting

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I think we're being subjected to gas lighting
    Certainly appears that way.

    And no wonder Birx doesn’t trust them
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    Apparently, the CDC combining spot test numbers with serum antibody test numbers is no big deal.
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    I thought case numbers were a big deal?

    The CDC is screwing them up and no one is interested.
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    So, if antibody test numbers have been co-mingled with spot test numbers, obviously it will yield an inflated result.

    But how much?

    We know from seroprevalence tests done thus far, that the number of past infections exceeds the number of total positive spot tests by a wide margin.

    So, could the positive test case numbers be inflated by as much as 50% in states like TX and GA?

    Certainly seems plausible.
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    OP is dead wrong and revealed an inability to grasp basic numbers and accounting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    So, if antibody test numbers have been co-mingled with spot test numbers, obviously it will yield an inflated result.

    But how much?

    We know from seroprevalence tests done thus far, that the number of past infections exceeds the number of total positive spot tests by a wide margin.

    So, could the positive test case numbers be inflated by as much as 50% in states like TX and GA?

    Certainly seems plausible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    OP is dead wrong and revealed an inability to grasp basic numbers and accounting.
    Even The Atlantic was forced to give a wtf?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    They've been doing this all along. Keep the water real muddy and let the
    media spin it however they like to promote continuous fear and confusion.
    It’s hard to believe it’s not intentional. The CDC does nothing but this sort of stuff, so how is it possible they would be so incompetent as to mix totally different data sets from totally different types of tests?

    Makes no sense. Team Apocalypse and the media will run in the other direction from this but at least the left-leaning Atlantic reported on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    A huge percentage have some vestage but never are effected.
    Weren't you people clamoring for recovered, undetected cases to be included in the total case count, to bring the nominal death rate down?

    Now according to this report the CDC is doing that, but you don't like it.

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