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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    I had a good friend who was what I would call a progressive pastor who told this story, and I'm paraphrasing:

    A remote village was visited by some Christian missionaries who decided they would convert the villagers to Christianity. They taught the villagers that salvation could be found only through belief in Jesus Christ. All others were cursed with eternal damnation'. One day the village elder asked the missionaries what would have happened to the villagers if no one had found them and taught them about the Christian Dogma. The missionaries replied 'You would certainly be saved. God would not punish you if you had no way of knowing the way to Him'. To which the village elder replied 'then why did you tell us?'

    It's a great point. Religion is personal. Stop trying to convert others to your way of belief. It only leads to the worst human atrocities on record.
    Good story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Old people babbling repetitive phrases while raising their arms in the air. Not that exciting.
    True speaking in tongues is going and preaching in another groups language that the preacher doesn't speak.
    Not this babbling about nothing to pretend to be holy!
    AM I, I AM's,AM I.
    What day is Michaelmas on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It's really a 3 step process, first everybody babbles in a loud cacophony of voices saying nothing, then everybody gets quiet (almost instantly, but not really hard to describe) then one or two folks start babbling, if two do one will shut up (sometimes both then somebody new steps in to babble), then somebody translates it... apparently God speaks in Ye Olde English because there are many "verilies" "thous" etc. rarely does somebody just speak in normal English (it does happen, but not normally). When I was 8 I always wondered why folks suddenly sounded like King James' times when translating and figured it was because they felt it to be more holy because the pastor used the King James version of the Bible. It seemed to me as an 8 year old that God would want to get his point across clearly and wouldn't mess around with archaic languages.
    Good observation for an 8 year old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    do you feel the same about islamic jihadists?
    Do they go to other countries and try to change their religions, culture, values, traditions? If so, yes. I despise proselytizing on an organized scale by any religion.* If your faith is that great, then show us by your example and maybe we'll look into it further.

    * And ppl selling stuff door to door too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    It's a great point. Religion is personal. Stop trying to convert others to your way of belief. It only leads to the worst human atrocities on record.
    Ra-men.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Do they go to other countries and try to change their religions, culture, values, traditions? If so, yes. I despise proselytizing on an organized scale by any religion.* If your faith is that great, then show us by your example and maybe we'll look into it further.

    * And ppl selling stuff door to door too.
    they decapitate fellow muslims that aren't radical enough for them. that's fine with you? you're a total hypocrite.
    morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    they decapitate fellow muslims that aren't radical enough for them. that's fine with you? you're a total hypocrite.
    Evidently this comment "If so, yes. I despise proselytizing on an organized scale by any religion" just slipped right by in your haste to look the fool again.

    Your stupid gland has spasmed again. Please get that looked at. Might be cancerous.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Evidently this comment "If so, yes. I despise proselytizing on an organized scale by any religion" just slipped right by in your haste to look the fool again.

    Your stupid gland has spasmed again. Please get that looked at. Might be cancerous.
    do you make a distinction between non coercive sharing and coercion or decapitation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Good observation for an 8 year old.
    Well, truthfully the thoughts were not that eloquent. More like, "Why do they talk like that instead of normal?" you know that kind of thing.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Evidently this comment "If so, yes. I despise proselytizing on an organized scale by any religion" just slipped right by in your haste to look the fool again.

    Your stupid gland has spasmed again. Please get that looked at. Might be cancerous.
    what if it's in their own country, but force is involved? fine with you?
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    this lady's mentally wrecked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    do you make a distinction between non coercive sharing and coercion or decapitation?
    There is little difference between them other than methods used. Those who feel compelled to invade other people's space -- whether that space is a neighborhood or a nation -- in order to attempt to convert them to their religion are despicable.

    A wise person would not bring up Islamic fundies' tactics because Christianity has done just as bad if not worse. You are not wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    There is little difference between them other than methods used. Those who feel compelled to invade other people's space -- whether that space is a neighborhood or a nation -- in order to attempt to convert them to their religion are despicable.

    A wise person would not bring up Islamic fundies' tactics because Christianity has done just as bad if not worse. You are not wise.
    so you make no distinction between someone coming to your door with a smile, an invitation, and watchtower magazine, and a jihadist decapitation?

    like I said, mentally wrecked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    so you make no distinction between someone coming to your door with with a smile, an invitation, and watchtower magazine, and a jihadist decapitation?

    like I said, mentally wrecked.
    Whatever, Nancy Anne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Whatever, Nancy Anne.

    you're wackozoidal.
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