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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Agreed. What I'm saying is that even though all businesses benefit from government and public infrastructure, we should still allow certain businesses to remain private and let them do what they want within reason.
    Well, within reason is where the debate is. I think it's reasonable to allow people to decide who they want to do business with. I know we agree on that, but unfortunately, the law doesn't.

    By the same token, I would be fine with YouTube doing what it currently does if it didn't get where it is today through corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Well, within reason is where the debate is. I think it's reasonable to allow people to decide who they want to do business with. I know we agree on that, but unfortunately, the law doesn't.

    By the same token, I would be fine with YouTube doing what it currently does if it didn't get where it is today through corruption.
    See this is the kind of consistency that we're not getting from Capitalists. This is one of indicators that Conservativism isn't really about small government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    See this is the kind of consistency that we're not getting from Capitalists. This is one of indicators that Conservativism isn't really about small government.
    Conservatism isn't about small government overall, but it is usually for smaller government than progressivism. Libertarianism is consistently small government, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Conservatism isn't about small government overall, but it is usually for smaller government than progressivism. Libertarianism is consistently small government, however.
    Progressive countries actually do have smaller government than conservative countries. Even in America, Republicans create bigger government than Democrats.
    Libertarians are more consistent in wanting small government, they're just completely unrealistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Progressive countries actually do have smaller government than conservative countries. Even in America, Republicans create bigger government than Democrats.
    Libertarians are more consistent in wanting small government, they're just completely unrealistic.
    I guess that depends on the countries being compared. Few European governments are smaller than African governments, and most African countries are more conservative than most European countries. Islamic majority countries typically have small governments economically, even if their social policies tend to be more restrictive.

    As far as Democrats and Republicans go, it depends on the power balance. Clinton had a smaller government than most, but that's because Republicans held a majority in both Houses for most of his time in office. Neither party has been small government since the 90s, but going back into earlier decades, FDR and LBJ definitely weren't small government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Big Tech companies are aggressively tamping down on COVID-19 “misinformation” — opinions and ideas contrary to official pronouncements.

    Dr. Knut M. Wittkowski, former head of biostatistics, epidemiology and research design at Rockefeller University, says YouTube removed a video of him talking about the virus which had racked up more than 1.3 million views.

    Wittkowski, 65, is a ferocious critic of the nation’s current steps to fight the coronavirus. He has derided social distancing, saying it only prolongs the virus’ existence and has attacked the current lockdown as mostly unnecessary.

    Wittkowski, who holds two doctorates in computer science and medical biometry, believes the coronavirus should be allowed to achieve “herd immunity,” and that short of a vaccine the pandemic will only end after it has sufficiently spread through the population.

    “With all respiratory diseases, the only thing that stops the disease is herd immunity. About 80% of the people need to have had contact with the virus, and the majority of them won’t even have recognized that they were infected,” he says in the now-deleted video.

    “I was just explaining what we had,” Wittkowski told The Post of the video, saying he had no idea why it was removed. The footage was produced by the British film company Journeyman Pictures.

    “They don’t tell you. They just say it violates our community standards. There’s no explanation for what those standards are or what standards it violated.”

    https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/youtube-censors-epidemiologist-knut-wittkowski-for-opposing-lockdown/

    Link to the deleted video:


    https://www.aier.org/article/stand-up-for-your-rights-says-bio-statistican-knut-m-wittkowski/
    Yet another clear example of why $230 needs to be clarified. YouTube has violated their own policy in doing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    I guess that depends on the countries being compared. Few European governments are smaller than African governments, and most African countries are more conservative than most European countries. Islamic majority countries typically have small governments economically, even if their social policies tend to be more restrictive.
    According to this, it seems like liberal countries have less government regulations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...onomic_freedom


    As far as Democrats and Republicans go, it depends on the power balance. Clinton had a smaller government than most, but that's because Republicans held a majority in both Houses for most of his time in office. Neither party has been small government since the 90s, but going back into earlier decades, FDR and LBJ definitely weren't small government.
    I would agree that there were other factors involved if this wasn't so consistent. It's seriously every Republican that grows the size of government more than the Democrats since the party switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    According to this, it seems like liberal countries have less government regulations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...onomic_freedom
    Progressive and liberal aren't the same. It is true that American political terminology often uses these words interchangeably, but the countries that rank highest on this list are liberal, but not always progressive. For example, the UAE is definitely not progressive. Singapore and Taiwan could be considered progressive on certain issues, but overall, they would be considered more socially conservative than most Western countries.


    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I would agree that there were other factors involved if this wasn't so consistent. It's seriously every Republican that grows the size of government more than the Democrats since the party switch.
    Most government growth is tied to Congress, not the president. For most of the 20th Century up until 1994, Democrats held a majority in at least one House at any given time. After 1994, the power balance in Congress began to shift more towards the GOP.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_...tes_Congresses

    So, given the fact that the government first grew into a much larger size in the 20th Century with Democrats controlling Congress for most of that period, I'd say the blame can more heavily be placed on Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Progressive and liberal aren't the same. It is true that American political terminology often uses these words interchangeably, but the countries that rank highest on this list are liberal, but not always progressive. For example, the UAE is definitely not progressive. Singapore and Taiwan could be considered progressive on certain issues, but overall, they would be considered more socially conservative than most Western countries.
    Even so, nearly all of the countries with the freest markets and highest living standards would be considered progressive.

    Most government growth is tied to Congress, not the president. For most of the 20th Century up until 1994, Democrats held a majority in at least one House at any given time. After 1994, the power balance in Congress began to shift more towards the GOP.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_...tes_Congresses

    So, given the fact that the government first grew into a much larger size in the 20th Century with Democrats controlling Congress for most of that period, I'd say the blame can more heavily be placed on Democrats.
    The president could control the growth of government with vetoes, which Republicans seem to not care about. And even after 1994, the rule still stands that government gets bigger under Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Even so, nearly all of the countries with the freest markets and highest living standards would be considered progressive.
    For a time, progressive reforms helped lead to a higher quality of life. I don't think the most recent progressive changes have resulted in that, however. Most of the social changes in Western society that have happened since the 2000s have been net negatives. In a few decades, the list will likely change with regard to living standards. East Asian countries like South Korea and Japan seem to be rising in quality of life, while European and North American societies are stagnating or declining.

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The president could control the growth of government with vetoes, which Republicans seem to not care about. And even after 1994, the rule still stands that government gets bigger under Republicans.
    Not much gets vetoed under either party's presidents. To be fair, a lot of the biggest expansions of government have been bipartisan -- like the growth of the surveillance state and the various wars we've entered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    For a time, progressive reforms helped lead to a higher quality of life. I don't think the most recent progressive changes have resulted in that, however. Most of the social changes in Western society that have happened since the 2000s have been net negatives. In a few decades, the list will likely change with regard to living standards. East Asian countries like South Korea and Japan seem to be rising in quality of life, while European and North American societies are stagnating or declining.
    The only net negative changes have been ones related to multiracialism which is a result of the Left being hijacked by (((Globalists))).
    Other social changes like gay marriage have worked well.

    Not much gets vetoed under either party's presidents. To be fair, a lot of the biggest expansions of government have been bipartisan -- like the growth of the surveillance state and the various wars we've entered.
    But Republicans still make the government bigger than Democrats do. So if your main issue is the growing government, Biden is the lesser evil to Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Conservatives: We believe in the free market and private property!

    *YouTube removes a video*

    Conservatives: Not like that!
    YouTube is free to remove any video or ban any user, but they lose the protections of $230 when doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The only net negative changes have been ones related to multiracialism which is a result of the Left being hijacked by (((Globalists))).
    Other social changes like gay marriage have worked well.



    But Republicans still make the government bigger than Democrats do. So if your main issue is the growing government, Biden is the lesser evil to Trump.
    Lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Lies.
    Fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Lies.
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