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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    - To all you folks out there carrying on about #fakecrisis; It's actually a MIS-HANDLED SITUATION that has developed into a crisis, courtesy by the clowns currently in the White House that many of you folks voted for! Deal with it.

    - Ask yourself...if the majority of America is technically unemployed now, and service oriented business have near zero customers, how the hell is Wall St. doing so well? WAKE THE HELL UP, PEOPLE!
    Take Away: The Elite Suck Ass!
    The bottom line is that conservatives cant admit to themselves the Evil they have allowed to romp on their watch.

    This is going to hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    In other words Trump is responsible for the world wide pandemic because of his mishandling the response.
    Hell I knew Trump welded power but I never realized he has the power of an mount Olympus God. Perfect example of the legalization of pot.
    We have 1/3rd of the cases and deaths on the entire planet, yet are 4 percent of its population. That should tell you how well he handled Corona. Other nations had concerned leaders who listened to the epidemiologists. Trump attacked WHO and CDC. He always created a demon to divert the rightys hate. It works so well on them. He has wrecked us since he got into office. We lost any moral authority and respect across the globe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
    which means that Wall St. doesn't have a damned thing to do with Joe Schmoe's wallet...it's all about the corps, high investors and their hip connection to the Fed. A disgrace.
    The stock market is not the economy. Look at the past decade as just one example where we've had the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression yet the Dow boomed. But too many people mistakenly look at the Dow and think that determines whether the economy is good or bad. And for too long the Fed has worried about the stock market over the economy when making decisions.

    (I do appreciate your Libertarian-esque bagging on the Fed. I'm not sure why there isn't more bi-partisanship on that front.)
    Here's the thing: since all the major corporations and businesses that (should) provide jobs for people depend upon Wall St. to determine their actions (aka bank accounts), the stock market jolly well is the economy. The problem lies in the federal gov't inability to make it's largesse transferable to the general welfare of the public....one of the reasons why I think Cuomo and De Blasio are full of it until they say those two words, "transaction tax".
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Wall St is doing so well because of:

    1) The Fed
    2) People are betting on a sharp recovery when the country does open back up
    3) The top stocks, Amazon, Microsoft, Facebook & Google are absolutely crushing it right now
    Because it is a gambling casino that taxpayers pick up their losses. As it shows now, it has been decoupled from the economy. The economy suffers and stockholders make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Take Away: The Elite Suck Ass!
    And yet Dump supporters vote for the "elite" every freaking time! Damned fools slit their own throats every 4 years, then bitch like they have no input in the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Because it is a gambling casino that taxpayers pick up their losses. As it shows now, it has been decoupled from the economy. The economy suffers and stockholders make money.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    We have 1/3rd of the cases and deaths on the entire planet, yet are 4 percent of its population. That should tell you how well he handled Corona. Other nations had concerned leaders who listened to the epidemiologists. Trump attacked WHO and CDC. He always created a demon to divert the rightys hate. It works so well on them. He has tweaked us since he got into office. We lost any moral authority and respect across the globe.
    Please do better work....in this case you should be talking about deaths per million or otherwise per capita, where according to Worldometers America comes in ninth worst.

    Yes that is bad, but we have a rotted out elite class and a super expensive crap medical system....and almost no one in many decades has given two shits about pandemic prep.

    But go ahead....Be a cunt and blame it all on Trump....
    The bottom line is that conservatives cant admit to themselves the Evil they have allowed to romp on their watch.

    This is going to hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    We have 1/3rd of the cases and deaths on the entire planet, yet are 4 percent of its population. That should tell you how well he handled Corona. Other nations had concerned leaders who listened to the epidemiologists. Trump attacked WHO and CDC. He always created a demon to divert the rightys hate. It works so well on them. He has tweaked us since he got into office. We lost any moral authority and respect across the globe.
    It’s all in Stalin NYC thx to the clown gov and Mayor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post


    Originally Posted by Nordberg
    We have 1/3rd of the cases and deaths on the entire planet, yet are 4 percent of its population. That should tell you how well he handled Corona. Other nations had concerned leaders who listened to the epidemiologists. Trump attacked WHO and CDC. He always created a demon to divert the rightys hate. It works so well on them. He has tweaked us since he got into office. We lost any moral authority and respect across the globe.
    Please do better work....in this case you should be talking about deaths per million or otherwise per capita, where according to Worldometers America comes in ninth worst.

    Yes that is bad, but we have a rotted out elite class and a super expensive crap medical system....and almost no one in many decades has given two shits about pandemic prep.

    But go ahead....Be a cunt and blame it all on Trump....
    My, but you do babble......Dump IS A MEMBER OF THE "ELITE CLASS" you keep ranting on about? YOU cannot afford one night in one of his hotels, and he's not about to build one to accommodate the likes of you and me. A matter of fact, a matter of history. Howard Stern called the number on folk like you. WAKE THE F**k UP, GENIUS!

    Oh, and could you please provide the link to this alleged Worldmeter you refer to, as you have a bad habit of pulling stuff out of your mental posterior and claiming it's legit. The reading audience awaits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quasar44 View Post

    Originally Posted by Nordberg
    We have 1/3rd of the cases and deaths on the entire planet, yet are 4 percent of its population. That should tell you how well he handled Corona. Other nations had concerned leaders who listened to the epidemiologists. Trump attacked WHO and CDC. He always created a demon to divert the rightys hate. It works so well on them. He has tweaked us since he got into office. We lost any moral authority and respect across the globe.
    It’s all in Stalin NYC thx to the clown gov and Mayor
    WTF are you on about now? Do you know what state gets the most fed money but returns less in taxes? It's Kentucky, the Turtle's home state. Boom! there it is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Because it is a gambling casino that taxpayers pick up their losses. As it shows now, it has been decoupled from the economy. The economy suffers and stockholders make money.
    Get rid of the Fed if you don’t like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Please do better work....in this case you should be talking about deaths per million or otherwise per capita, where according to Worldometers America comes in ninth worst.

    Yes that is bad, but we have a rotted out elite class and a super expensive crap medical system....and almost no one in many decades has given two shits about pandemic prep.

    But go ahead....Be a cunt and blame it all on Trump....
    Please pay attention. I am talking about the world's total cases, which is what I said. South Korea got their first case the same day we did and they have brought it down and are handling it. can you say Trump accomplished that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Don't play dumber than you are.....those are YOUR WORDS, not mine. If you don't understand what I posted in the OP, either take a refresher course in comprehensive reading or get a nearby adult or librarian to explain it to you. Jeez, you Dump trucks are pathetic!
    Why do lefties like you feel compelled to play the blame game? Did Trump make mistakes, of course he did. The point I was making is you lefties sit on your ass an do nothing but whine how bad things are in the US and around the world, all because of Trump. What to get rid of Trump then give me a viable candidate to vote for. Who are you running Joe Biden one of the biggest clowns in Washington. When Trump gets re-elected you idiots will continue to sit on your asses and do nothing but fucking piss and moan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    We have 1/3rd of the cases and deaths on the entire planet, yet are 4 percent of its population. That should tell you how well he handled Corona. Other nations had concerned leaders who listened to the epidemiologists. Trump attacked WHO and CDC. He always created a demon to divert the rightys hate. It works so well on them. He has wrecked us since he got into office. We lost any moral authority and respect across the globe.
    Look Margret it's the old Republican president has caused the US and world to go to hell in a hand basket. Why don't you idiots come up with a new play book this one has become a joke. Instead of throwing blame how about running someone people will vote for not against. Thake my word for it Biden ain't it.

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    The first identified coronavirus in the US was 21 Jan 2020 Washington state.

    Timeline of Events

    On January 31, HHS declared Coronavirus a Public Health Emergency in the US
    As of Jan. 31, the Wuhan coronavirus is officially a public health emergency in the United States, Alex Azar, secretary of the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), announced at a White House press briefing.

    On Jan. 31, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a federal quarantine for 14 days affecting the 195 American evacuees from Wuhan, China. Starting Sunday, Feb. 2, U.S. citizens, permanent residents and immediate family who have visited China's Hubei province will undergo a mandatory 14 days quarantine and, if they have visited other parts of China, they would be screened at airports and asked to self-quarantine for 14 days. The last time the CDC had issued a quarantine was over 50 years ago in the 1960s, for smallpox.
    President Donald Trump signed an order on Jan. 31 for the U.S. to deny entry to foreign nationals who traveled to China within the preceding two weeks, aside from the immediate family of U.S. citizens.
    On Jan. 30, the CDC had confirmed the first case of person to person transmission in the U.S.: [12] the husband of the Chicago, Illinois case who had returned from Wuhan, China on Jan. 13 and who tested positive for the virus on Jan. 24).
    CDC stated on Jan. 30 that "It is likely there will be more cases of 2019-nCoV reported in the U.S. in the coming days and weeks, including more person-to-person spread."[12]
    The virus had been confirmed in 5 states.
    On Jan. 31, New York City health officials vehemently denied the rumor regarding a coronavirus case in the city .[13]. On Feb. 1, however, the city's health commissioner did report that there was a test being performed on a person under 40 who had returned from China, developed matching symptoms, and tested negative to the seasonal flu.
    Most US patients had recently visited Wuhan.
    All of the first five U.S. cases were described as mild.
    A study on the first US case of novel coronavirus detailed mild symptoms followed by pneumonia
    U.S. Airlines suspended ALL flights between the U.S. and China
    On Friday, January 31, Delta, American and United announced they would temporarily suspend all of their mainland China flights in response to the coronavirus outbreak.[14]
    Prior to this January 31 announcement:
    UNITED AIRLINES
    on Jan. 28 had announced it would cut 24 flights between the U.S. and China for the first week of February.
    AMERICAN AIRLINES
    on Jan. 29 had announced it would suspend flights from Los Angeles to Shanghai and Beijing from Feb. 9 through March 27, 2020. It will maintain its flight schedules (10 daily A/R) from Dallas-Fort Worth to Shanghai and Beijing, as well as from Los Angeles and Dallas-Fort Worth to Hong Kong.
    DELTA
    had not adjusted its schedule of direct flights from the U.S. to China. It is the only airline with direct flights to not take action so far.
    The White House was considering issuing a ban on flights between the United States and China, as of late Jan. 28[11]. Italy has announced on January 31 that it was suspending all flights to and from China following the first 2 cases of coronavirus in Italy.
    Travel Alert: Do Not Travel to China
    The U.S. State Department on January 30 issued a Level 4: Do Not Travel to China Alert [4] (the highest level of alert).
    Previously, on January 29, the advisory was set at a lower "Level 3: Reconsider Travel" advising not to travel to Hubei Province: (Level 4) and reconsider travel to the remainder of China (Level 3).
    The CDC on Jan. 28 issued a Level 3 Warning, recommending that travelers avoid all nonessential travel to China

    Seem like there was no delay in the government response to the coronavirus.
    Last edited by Eagle_Eye; 05-16-2020 at 07:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post

    Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
    Don't play dumber than you are.....those are YOUR WORDS, not mine. If you don't understand what I posted in the OP, either take a refresher course in comprehensive reading or get a nearby adult or librarian to explain it to you. Jeez, you Dump trucks are pathetic!
    Why do lefties like you feel compelled to play the blame game? Did Trump make mistakes, of course he did. The point I was making is you lefties sit on your ass an do nothing but whine how bad things are in the US and around the world, all because of Trump. What to get rid of Trump then give me a viable candidate to vote for. Who are you running Joe Biden one of the biggest clowns in Washington. When Trump gets re-elected you idiots will continue to sit on your asses and do nothing but fucking piss and moan.
    Fact of the matter is Dump NEVER ADMITS his flaws or mistakes. If you can provide the reading audience valid documentation to the contrary, please do. If not, go blow smoke to your equally closed minded compadres. See, the "leftie" President Obama left a 69 page document on dealing with pending and potential situations like we have today. Not only did Dump & company ignore it, but then LIED about that: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...andemic-259969
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...avirus/608647/

    The Turtle eventually copped, but Dump never did and NEVER WILL.

    In face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, I'll ignore you absurd drivel about Dump critics not taking action to solve problems.

    Now hold onto your hat....I agree with you that Biden is NOT a good candidate now, as I suspect the beginnings of mental fatigue/deterioration (much like with Reagan). That is the fault of the DNC, who are not interested in any real basic changes in American business and society (which is why they trashed Sanders twice).
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