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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Oh lordy, Dutch, I hope that you will both be okay. It sure wouldn't hurt to be tested, and let them know where you've been, just in case.
    While I'd certainly like to confirm a diagnosis, but in the end, as long as I'm self-quarantining, it doesn't matter since there is no cure or vaccine. It's like going to the doctor for a cold. What's s/he going to say? "Drink plenty of water, get bed rest and take aspirin...now pay the receptionist your copay". Obviously if it becomes serious, it's doctor-time. So far, both of us just have mild headaches and a little fever. The chills I had last night didn't last long. Testing is more for tracking the disease than helping patients.

    In the end, it's the body count that tells the tale, not a mild headache and mild fever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    While I'd certainly like to confirm a diagnosis, but in the end, as long as I'm self-quarantining, it doesn't matter since there is no cure or vaccine. It's like going to the doctor for a cold. What's s/he going to say? "Drink plenty of water, get bed rest and take aspirin...now pay the receptionist your copay". Obviously if it becomes serious, it's doctor-time. So far, both of us just have mild headaches and a little fever. The chills I had last night didn't last long. Testing is more for tracking the disease than helping patients.

    In the end, it's the body count that tells the tale, not a mild headache and mild fever.
    Whatever you decide please don't take chances with your health!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Whatever you decide please don't take chances with your health!
    Thanks. Same to you! I'm having too much fun to screw it up now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Do you have any references backing those numbers?

    If the disease is real, then why are you claiming the numbers are the same? Yes, the disease only has a 3% mortality rate. Most people are barely affected. The 3%, not so much.
    Its the "panic porn" from ignorant enablers......that concerns me. Even the 3% number that you presented is total Bullshit as you simply parroted some talking head talking out their ass. You are parroting demonstrated "fake" propaganda from the WHO (world health organization.....controlled by the Chicoms). This 3% mortality was debunked almost as soon as the WHO released this model based upon a false premise.....the actual mortality rate resembles the seasonal flu.....@ 0.1% That's correct of the 100% infected.....99.9% make a total recovery within 3 days (entire population.....the highest mortality rate lies with seniors and the infirmed just like the seasonal flu).

    The one's that should be "sequestered" are those who are actually sick and infirmed ……..not the healthy who should be going about their business as usual creating a herd immunity. As always....the globalists and the leftists have the MULE ATTEMPTING TO PUSH THE PLOW.

    Not only did the WHO allow the bug to spread on a global basis by refusing to release the actual data from CHINA back in the fall of 2019......their first action was to send out millions of tests that resulted in an 80% false positive. Just ask the Canucks about their dealings with the Chicoms and the WHO …….they paid for protective equipment with a medical order to China and found out they were sent worthless faulty medical equipment.

    When one nation ordered tests from the WHO they sent in swabs from a goat and Pawpaw (fruit)…..both tested positive for the Virus...…..


    When ever I see "PANIC PORN"......I simply call out the Bullshiter who parroted and pasted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Its the "panic porn" from ignorant enablers......that concerns me. Even the 3% number that you presented is total Bullshit as you simply parroted some talking head talking out their ass. You are parroting demonstrated "fake" propaganda from the WHO (world health organization....
    You mean just like you are doing now? The fact remains the US isn't alone in being concerned about this disease. If it was, I'd completely agree it's political bullshit, but it isn't.

    Texas doesn't have a lefty, liberal government. We've had 45,198 confirmed cases, 25,454 recovered cases and 1,272 deaths. While I don't trust the data out of Russia and China, I do trust the data from the Texas and Federal government. You claiming that data is "simply parroted some talking head talking out their ass" is a ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    You mean just like you are doing now? The fact remains the US isn't alone in being concerned about this disease. If it was, I'd completely agree it's political bullshit, but it isn't.

    Texas doesn't have a lefty, liberal government. We've had 45,198 confirmed cases, 25,454 recovered cases and 1,272 deaths. While I don't trust the data out of Russia and China, I do trust the data from the Texas and Federal government. You claiming that data is "simply parroted some talking head talking out their ass" is a ridiculous.
    Again....PANIC PORN. Truth does not favor Rs or Ds. Math does not lie...…..more people died (in total population) during the first 4 months of 2018 than have died in the middle of a supposed pandemic during the same time period in 2020. Figures don't like but LIARS SURE AS HELL FIGURE. Take for example the month of March.....right in the middle throws of this PLANNEDDEMIC......more people died last year during March than this year...go figure, and overall...…...during the months of Jan. thru April more people died in 2018 than in 2020 thus far. In fact....the death rate in the US over the previous 4 years has been higher than the numbers recorded at the height of this supposed pandemic this year.

    As I said "PANIC PORN" projected by those who simply parrot and paste left wing talking points as truth. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020...or-four-years/

    Can you spell? Spell this...... LEFT WING HOAX, just like the Russia, Russia, Russia event.....when it was OBAMAGATE playing out. The left loves to project LIES.....only fools eat it for breakfast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Its the "panic porn" from ignorant enablers......that concerns me. Even the 3% number that you presented is total Bullshit as you simply parroted some talking head talking out their ass. You are parroting demonstrated "fake" propaganda from the WHO (world health organization.....controlled by the Chicoms). This 3% mortality was debunked almost as soon as the WHO released this model based upon a false premise.....the actual mortality rate resembles the seasonal flu.....@ 0.1% That's correct of the 100% infected.....99.9% make a total recovery within 3 days (entire population.....the highest mortality rate lies with seniors and the infirmed just like the seasonal flu).
    What utter nonsense from you. The rate of mortality can't be .1% based on deaths in NY. If we assume every person in NY state has had Covid we get a mortaly rate of .15% which is already 50% more than your claim. If we look at Queens and assume everyone there has had Covid we get a mortality rate of .26%, more than double your claimed rate. When we get to the Bronx the rate is .28% if we simply divide deaths by population. The only one talking out of their ass is you when you claim 99.9% recover in 3 days.

    The one's that should be "sequestered" are those who are actually sick and infirmed ……..not the healthy who should be going about their business as usual creating a herd immunity. As always....the globalists and the leftists have the MULE ATTEMPTING TO PUSH THE PLOW.
    And you are here trying to tell us the bulldozer we are pushing the plow with is really a mule. Facts matter. Your blindness to those facts doesn't help your argument.
    Not only did the WHO allow the bug to spread on a global basis by refusing to release the actual data from CHINA back in the fall of 2019......their first action was to send out millions of tests that resulted in an 80% false positive. Just ask the Canucks about their dealings with the Chicoms and the WHO …….they paid for protective equipment with a medical order to China and found out they were sent worthless faulty medical equipment.
    If 80% of the test are false positives then once again we arrive at your claim of .1% case mortality must be bogus. If 100% of a population MUST be infected to achieve your .1% mortality rate then the false positive MUST be 0% for that population. There is no way for it to be 80% false positives. Let's look at Italy, Spain, and the UK. Let's assume 100% of those countries are tested and 80% are false positives. That would mean only 20% of the population could be infected. That would put case mortality rates in those countries at almost 1%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Again....PANIC PORN....
    ROFL Dude, you are free to scream that until the cows come home but sane people understand facts, the insane not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    What utter nonsense from you. The rate of mortality can't be .1% based on deaths in NY. If we assume every person in NY state has had Covid we get a mortaly rate of .15% which is already 50% more than your claim. If we look at Queens and assume everyone there has had Covid we get a mortality rate of .26%, more than double your claimed rate. When we get to the Bronx the rate is .28% if we simply divide deaths by population. The only one talking out of their ass is you when you claim 99.9% recover in 3 days.

    And you are here trying to tell us the bulldozer we are pushing the plow with is really a mule. Facts matter. Your blindness to those facts doesn't help your argument.
    If 80% of the test are false positives then once again we arrive at your claim of .1% case mortality must be bogus. If 100% of a population MUST be infected to achieve your .1% mortality rate then the false positive MUST be 0% for that population. There is no way for it to be 80% false positives. Let's look at Italy, Spain, and the UK. Let's assume 100% of those countries are tested and 80% are false positives. That would mean only 20% of the population could be infected. That would put case mortality rates in those countries at almost 1%.
    you're desperate. nobody believes in fake virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Again....PANIC PORN. Truth does not favor Rs or Ds. Math does not lie...…..LIEmore people died (in total population) during the first 4 months of 2018 than have died in the middle of a supposed pandemic during the same time period in 2020. Figures don't like but LIARS SURE AS HELL FIGURE. Take for example the month of March.....right in the middle throws of this PLANNEDDEMIC......more people died last year during March than this year...go figure, and overall...…...during the months of Jan. thru April more people died in 2018 than in 2020 thus far. LIEIn fact....the death rate in the US over the previous 4 years has been higher than the numbers recorded at the height of this supposed pandemic this year.

    As I said "PANIC PORN" projected by those who simply parrot and paste left wing talking points as truth. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020...or-four-years/

    Can you spell? Spell this...... LEFT WING HOAX, just like the Russia, Russia, Russia event.....when it was OBAMAGATE playing out. The left loves to project LIES.....only fools eat it for breakfast.
    Really? You are going with that idiotic claim? On April 8th, CDC did not have complete data for March of 2020 so the author is using incomplete data. Then he cherry picks a large flu season while not including the worst months of Covid deaths. By March 30th there were only 4,000 deaths in the US from Covid 19.
    So.. Let's look at the comparison, week by week.

    week 2018 2019 2020
    1 - 66,134 58,292 59,576
    2 - 67,495 58,354 59,919
    3 - 64,647 58,197 58,400
    4 - 62,780 57,837 57,855
    5 - 60,974 58,128 57,385
    6 - 61,110 58,496 57,996
    7 - 59,779 57,918 57,339
    8 - 57,793 57,862 57,336
    9 - 56,692 57,922 57,630
    10 - 57,093 58,509 57,184
    11 - 56,326 57,897 55,658
    12 - 55,766 57,089 55,790
    13 - 54,918 56,674 58,824
    14 - 55,294 56,594 66,580
    15 - 55,228 55,482 71,879
    16 - 54,038 54,461 67,059

    Yep. Figures don't lie but liars do figure.

    Lie number one from you- there are more deaths in 2020 than in 2018.
    Deaths through week 16 in 2018 - 946,067
    Deaths through week 16 in 2020 - 956,410


    The worst part of it is your claim that March was the height of the pandemic. April was. By March 20 we only had 70 deaths from Covid. If we simply compare the worst week from 2018 and 2020 we see that 2020 has more deaths in one week than any time in 2018. A four week period in 2020 is worse than the worst 4 week period in 2018.

    At this point we are averaging 13,000 more deaths per week than during 2018 or 2019. You are free to stick you head in the sand but numbers don't lie. When final numbers come in for April we will probably be 25,000 more deaths from the beginning of the year to the end of April than in 2018
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

    "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    You mean just like you are doing now? The fact remains the US isn't alone in being concerned about this disease. If it was, I'd completely agree it's political bullshit, but it isn't.

    Texas doesn't have a lefty, liberal government. We've had 45,198 confirmed cases, 25,454 recovered cases and 1,272 deaths. While I don't trust the data out of Russia and China, I do trust the data from the Texas and Federal government. You claiming that data is "simply parroted some talking head talking out their ass" is a ridiculous.
    You've probably noticed, as I have, that in their desperation to save the orange bacon, the Trumpanzees' latest tactic is to lie about the reported numbers. As always, no actual facts will sway them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    You've probably noticed, as I have, that in their desperation to save the orange bacon, the Trumpanzees' latest tactic is to lie about the reported numbers. As always, no actual facts will sway them.

    Agreed, that truth always gets out. That's a main reason why I do not support conspiracy theories; too many people know about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Agreed, that truth always gets out. That's a main reason why I do not support conspiracy theories; too many people know about it.
    Yep. Mr. Owl's theory on that: Conspiracy theorists think that when it comes to the government, there isn't a single thing that they can do right. But when there's an sinister plot being cooked up by the same government, their nefarious evil is perfect. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Yep. Mr. Owl's theory on that: Conspiracy theorists think that when it comes to the government, there isn't a single thing that they can do right. But when there's an sinister plot being cooked up by the same government, their nefarious evil is perfect. lol
    ROFLMAO. Good for Mr. Owl! I agree 100%.

    What does he think, big picture wise, about Trump linking the pandemic, economy, "Obamagate" and the election?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you're desperate. nobody believes in fake virus.
    LOL. Well, at least none of the conspiracy theorist nutjobs, looneytoons and other mental cases living in denial believe COVID-19 exists. To them, Trump is correct: it's just another "flu virus". No worse. Of course, that doesn't explain why Trump claimed it was a pandemic and why he's holding daily "flu" briefings.
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