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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    They'll debate. Sure, Biden will look like a kindly, doddering grandfather and Trump will look like a Bad Grandpa hopped up on Adderall, but they'll debate.
    you at least got the doddering part correct. as usual you are wrong about everything else. like the Adderall

    -have you noticed Biden isn't constantly stuttering and blanking out? He's the one on Adderall

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I'm not worried so much about Biden as I am his "handlers." In all honesty, I don't think Biden is all that bad of a guy, but he's never shown leadership qualities and he'd be a puppet for the likes of Pelosi, Schumer and the rest of the far leftists. That would be bad for our country and our economy. It would take years to recover from a Biden presidency.
    Put it this way. Biden has already gone full bore Bernie on free stuff.
    The Dems are a party of radical leftists - Biden has no core = Biden becomes a figurehead Progressive POTUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    yes it would be be a supreme blunder to do otherwise
    " what does he have to hide" "we have a right to hear hem"etc. Some people on here have no political minds
    Exactly. It makes no sense. He would rightly get crushed for skipping the debates. Any sitting President would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Put it this way. Biden has already gone full bore Bernie on free stuff.
    The Dems are a party of radical leftists - Biden has no core = Biden becomes a figurehead Progressive POTUS
    I've been saying that all along.

    Well, it's a calm and beautiful morning, think I'll head out to the gun range in about an hour and burn some powder. I loaded 3 boxes of .220 Swift's for groundhogs this year. I have a few rounds left from last year, I'll put a target up at the 200 meter range and see if I can cloverleaf a few rounds off the bench.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I've been saying that all along.

    Well, it's a calm and beautiful morning, think I'll head out to the gun range in about an hour and burn some powder. I loaded 3 boxes of .220 Swift's for groundhogs this year. I have a few rounds left from last year, I'll put a target up at the 200 meter range and see if I can cloverleaf a few rounds off the bench.
    not a fan of guns here, but I am a fan of you exercising your 2nd amendment rights.. stay safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Exactly. It makes no sense. He would rightly get crushed for skipping the debates. Any sitting President would.
    it's the only time we see them go head to head without paid ads or handlers.
    But i wonder if there will be an audience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Funny. They deny Obama credit for turning a near depression around, because 'the economy had nowhere to go but up'.

    Well...the same applies here. What they fear is the truth...someone is going to have to start paying taxes.
    They're also the exact same crew that guaranteed that Obama's stimulus would take us into a Depression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    not a fan of guns here, but I am a fan of you exercising your 2nd amendment rights.. stay safe
    I always stay safe with my firearms, and especially with my black powder guns. I taught firearms courses for over 20 years, safety is paramount, even in the advanced courses.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    it's the only time we see them go head to head without paid ads or handlers.
    But i wonder if there will be an audience?
    That's a excellent question. But pretty clear at this point if there is an audience it won't be a full audience. There will be social distancing involved.

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    Trump will not debate. He knows very little. He does not want to answer questions about why he took Obama's great economy down to depression levels and blew Corona badly.He cannot defend a huge tax cut for wealthy and corporations. Trump is a divider energizing small groups into hate .Trump is a disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I doubt there will be any.
    There is a good chance Trump will try to get out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    CNN Poll: Biden tops Trump nationwide, but battlegrounds tilt Trump


    Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden's lead over President Donald Trump now stands at five points, but Trump has an edge in the critical battleground states that could decide the electoral college, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

    In the new poll, 51% of registered voters nationwide back Biden, while 46% say they prefer Trump, while in the battlegrounds, 52% favor Trump and 45% Biden. Partisans are deeply entrenched in their corners, with 95% of Democrats behind Biden and the same share of Republicans behind Trump. The two are close among independents (50% back Trump, 46% Biden, not a large enough difference to be considered a lead), but Biden's edge currently rests on the larger share of voters who identify as Democrats.

    The former vice president continues to hold healthy leads among women (55% Biden to 41% Trump) and people of color (69% Biden to 26% Trump). The two run more closely among men (50% Trump to 46% Biden) and the President holds a clear edge among whites (55% Trump to 43% Biden). The poll suggests Biden outpaces Trump among voters over age 45 by a 6-point margin, while the two are near even among those under age 45 (49% Biden to 46% Trump).
    Though other recent polling has shown some signs of concern for Biden among younger voters and strength among older ones, few have pegged the race as this close among younger voters. The results suggest that younger voters in the battleground states are tilted in favor of Trump, a stark change from the last CNN poll in which battleground voters were analyzed in March, even as other demographic groups shifted to a smaller degree. Given the small sample size in that subset of voters, it is difficult to determine with certainty whether the movement is significant or a fluke of random sampling. Nationally, Biden holds a lead over Trump among voters age 65 and older, a group which has been tilted Republican in recent presidential elections.

    Trump's biggest advantage over Biden in the poll comes on his handling of the economy. Most voters, 54%, say they trust the President to better handle the nation's economy, while 42% say they prefer Biden. An earlier release from the same CNN poll found the public's ratings of the economy at their worst level since 2013, as a growing share said the economic damage wrought by the coronavirus outbreak could be permanent. But Biden does have the advantage as more trusted to handle the response to the coronavirus outbreak (51% Biden to 45% Trump) and health care (54% Biden to 42% Trump).

    Voters divide over which of the two has the stamina and sharpness to be president (49% say Trump, 46% Biden), a frequent attack Trump levels against the former vice president. But Biden outpaces Trump across five other tested attributes. His advantage is largest on which candidate would unite the country and not divide it (55% say Biden would, 38% Trump), followed by being honest and trustworthy (53% choose Biden, 38% Trump). Biden is seen as caring more about people like you (54% Biden vs. 42% Trump), better able to manage government effectively (52% Biden to 45% Trump) and more trusted in a crisis (51% Biden to 45% Trump).

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    Okay if this makes you feel better, but its all in how you group the "battleground" states, if you pick only the four that matter, PA, MI, WI, and and MN Biden leads in each state. That might change, but if it makes you feel better, temporary go for it.
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    I have no idea how Biden will be as President.

    But if you lived in America over he past 2 months, and understand that COVID will be with us for awhile - how in the world do you make the decision that you want 4 more years of THIS kind of leadership? What about this is appealing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Trump will not debate. He knows very little. He does not want to answer questions about why he took Obama's great economy down to depression levels and blew Corona badly.He cannot defend a huge tax cut for wealthy and corporations. Trump is a divider energizing small groups into hate .Trump is a disaster.
    China is the cause of death and economic loss caused by the virus from China that China failed to contain.

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    The American economy will be booming soon, as it was before China spread their virus around the world.

    Every state except two have reopened and those two are in the process of reopening.

    The business of America is business and the only ones opposing the reopening of America are Democrats.

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