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    Default Public Health Issue? Economic Crisis Issue? No...Ideological Dogfight

    The Covid 19 pandemic is further proof that everything in our polarized nation is an ideological issue.

    If you voted for Secretary Clinton, you favor maintaining shelter-in-place precautions.

    If you voted for the orange pigfucker, you're ready for business as usual.

    I go outdoors to walk my dog, and then I enjoy the comforts of my home for the rest of the day.
    I can't remember when I've been more relaxed.
    Sure, I've lost several grand from my modest portfolio, but my pension, social security, and medicare coverage haven't been affected at all.

    Others, in fairness, are taking a financial beating not being able to go to work, and I can certainly empathize with them.

    Nevertheless, these factors aren't really determining how people are lining up.

    If you're a Trumpanzee troglodyte, you have one view.
    If you're educated and have a moral compass, you have a different view.

    That's where America is today.
    Our awesome natural resources sprawling between two great oceans once provided a big enough advantage to shield us from our own moral and social deficiencies.
    Not anymore.
    Now American is bursting apart at the seams, starkly divided and with no appetite to come together.
    We are an "us and them" nation, and history shows us that "us and them" nations general dissolve to chaos.

    I can't imagine California, Oregon, and Washington wanting to be part of this mess much longer.
    The same goes for New England and New York.

    Soon, and I kind of hope that it's real soon, Middle America will have to get by on its own dime without our help as "donor states."
    Good luck with that.

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    I agree its become an ideological issue and many people can't think beyond the perspective of the 2020 election. However there are plenty of people in California, in LA and the Bay Area in particular, who are pissed and fed up with Newsom and Eric Garcetti. If you think all California folks are all kumbayah in agreement over this you are sadly mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I agree its become an ideological issue and many people can't think beyond the perspective of the 2020 election. However there are plenty of people in California, in LA and the Bay Area in particular, who are pissed and fed up with Newsom and Eric Garcetti. If you think all California folks are all kumbayah in agreement over this you are sadly mistaken.
    We have conservatives in blue New England as well.
    But there are proposals to make them wear a scarlet letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    We have conservatives in blue New England as well.
    But there are proposals to make them wear a scarlet letter.
    It's not even being conservative. Anecdotal but I have two friends that are Democrats that both called Gavin Newsom and the LA and SF Mayors communists. I thought it was funny as hell. Neither of these guys is going out and voting for Trump. But just because they are Democrats doesn't mean they agree with what the state is doing.

    Pretty scary the idea that because you vote a certain way you can only think one way about an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Pretty scary the idea that because you vote a certain way you can only think one way about an issue.
    I don't disagree.
    I'm merely observing that this is what's actually happening in my area.

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    Per the OP, it's all three.

    But . . . Trump has to go so the country can heal.
    Russian trolls and their supporters go on Ignore, automatically: no second chance.


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