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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    It is not racketeering. It is rape. No, I do not support rape. I do not support bigotry either.
    Raping children is not worst than bigotry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I know that there are lib'ruls here who speak in favor of Palestine, Iran and other Muslim nations who deny the existence of God.......I'm not going to hunt down their posts to appease your thirst for knowledge but that doesn't change the fact of their existence.....

    So you made it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    So you made it up.
    ???....you're an idiot aren't you......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    I disagree.

    They tolerate and support Islam for political reasons. For example, atheist North Korea and atheist China support Iran.

    Communist politics abhors religion, ... and atheists support it because of that, but they are willing to tolerate Islam to an extent. And yes, I'm aware of the Uyghurs. Socialists are two faced hypocrites.
    They support Iran, not because Iran practices Islam, but because Iran is also an oligarchy or dictatorship (depending on the moment), and has been for a long time.
    North Korea is not atheist. Their citizens tend to favor Shinto.
    China is not atheist. Their citizens tend to favor Buddhism or Shinto, or a combination of both.

    Of course, their governments try to quash any organized religion but their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ???....you're an idiot aren't you......
    Much smarter than you. You bore me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    That's nonsense.
    Argument of the Stone fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Are there some 'fundamental' atheists? Yes.
    Most are.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    But atheists make up a large segment of the population.
    About 0.137%, according to the Pew research center. Personally, I don't give any credence to such polls.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    For the most part, you won't notice them BECAUSE they are not fundamental.
    No, because the numbers are probably so tiny.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Atheists don't wear it on their sleeve. Why would they?
    They do. You are wearing it on your sleeve right now. You are about to try to prove no god or gods exist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Atheism is not proactive.
    You are being active about it right now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    I don't believe in God. I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy either.
    Fine. You don't believe in them. You believe there is no god or gods. That in and of itself is a circular argument (not a fallacy), also known as an argument of faith.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    It is not an 'active' disbelief.
    It is an active belief.
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    I don't believe in those things because they come from the imagination. So does God.
    Circular argument fallacy. You cannot prove there is no god, gods, Easter Bunnies (they really exist. It consists of a bunny born or given to another on Easter. The character of the Easter Bunny was born out of marketing.), Santa Clause (he really existed, after a fashion. The picture of the Jolly Old Elf at the North Pole was invented by Coca Cola for marketing purposes.), or Tooth Fairies.

    Santa Clause really existed in history. It is documented. He was a Cardinal (all Cardinals are called 'saint') that lived in Turkey called Saint Nicholas, known for his philanthropy, especially to children, and especially to poor children. Cardinals wear a red robe or 'coat'. As news of his renown traveled north through countries Spain (where 'Santa' is used instead of 'Saint') then to Germany or Holland, people in those languages tended to shorten the 'Nick' in St. Nicholas, pronouncing it "St. 'Cholas, or St. 'Nick'. Many of these immigrated to America, where the pronunciation stuck. A whimsical poet in 1822 depicted a plump Santa Clause coming down the chimney (it was common to heat homes with coal or wood in those days) to give presents to the children. In 1931, Coca Cola had an artist draw up a picture of Santa Clause for their advertisements, which was inspired by that poem.

    Parents told of stories of beneficial bunnies, beneficial fat elves on sleighs, and many other characters, including the Tooth Fairy. Part of the childhood stories and poems taught to many kids. As they grew up, they learned was actually their parents, and even helped out being 'Santa' or 'the Easter Bunny' for the younger ones in the family. These are the testimonies of parents and older siblings. You can take them or leave them.

    That you still take this stuff seriously in trying to prove god does not exist is your own fundamentalism.

    Logically, you cannot prove any one of these exist. You cannot prove any one of these do not exist. Your belief that there is no god or gods is your belief. You are entitled to it, but recognize it is a belief based on faith, just like any other religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Raping children is not worst than bigotry?
    ??? WTF did you get THAT from? Your controlling Aliens feeding you random thoughts???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    ??? WTF did you get THAT from? Your controlling Aliens feeding you random thoughts???

    OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Much smarter than you. You bore me.
    Mantras 7...5...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
    QED. You DO seem to be receiving random thoughts from some Alien.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Much smarter than you. You bore me.
    you may be smarter than domer and Nomad but you are still in the bottom 20% of people who post here......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Argument of the Stone fallacy.

    Most are.

    About 0.137%, according to the Pew research center. Personally, I don't give any credence to such polls.

    No, because the numbers are probably so tiny.

    They do. You are wearing it on your sleeve right now. You are about to try to prove no god or gods exist.

    You are being active about it right now.

    Fine. You don't believe in them. You believe there is no god or gods. That in and of itself is a circular argument (not a fallacy), also known as an argument of faith.

    It is an active belief.

    Circular argument fallacy. You cannot prove there is no god, gods, Easter Bunnies (they really exist. It consists of a bunny born or given to another on Easter. The character of the Easter Bunny was born out of marketing.), Santa Clause (he really existed, after a fashion. The picture of the Jolly Old Elf at the North Pole was invented by Coca Cola for marketing purposes.), or Tooth Fairies.

    Santa Clause really existed in history. It is documented. He was a Cardinal (all Cardinals are called 'saint') that lived in Turkey called Saint Nicholas, known for his philanthropy, especially to children, and especially to poor children. Cardinals wear a red robe or 'coat'. As news of his renown traveled north through countries Spain (where 'Santa' is used instead of 'Saint') then to Germany or Holland, people in those languages tended to shorten the 'Nick' in St. Nicholas, pronouncing it "St. 'Cholas, or St. 'Nick'. Many of these immigrated to America, where the pronunciation stuck. A whimsical poet in 1822 depicted a plump Santa Clause coming down the chimney (it was common to heat homes with coal or wood in those days) to give presents to the children. In 1931, Coca Cola had an artist draw up a picture of Santa Clause for their advertisements, which was inspired by that poem.

    Parents told of stories of beneficial bunnies, beneficial fat elves on sleighs, and many other characters, including the Tooth Fairy. Part of the childhood stories and poems taught to many kids. As they grew up, they learned was actually their parents, and even helped out being 'Santa' or 'the Easter Bunny' for the younger ones in the family. These are the testimonies of parents and older siblings. You can take them or leave them.

    That you still take this stuff seriously in trying to prove god does not exist is your own fundamentalism.

    Logically, you cannot prove any one of these exist. You cannot prove any one of these do not exist. Your belief that there is no god or gods is your belief. You are entitled to it, but recognize it is a belief based on faith, just like any other religion.
    As usual, a galactically stupid post from you. I did not nor have I EVER attempted to prove God does not exist. So your suggestion that I did is yet another lie from you. You seem to be a compulsive liar. Anyone who does not believe in God is an atheist. They do not self identify, they simply exist. So your Pew Research number is nonsense. Not only is it nonsense, it's yet another lie you are telling. According to PEW research, 3.1% of the population IDENTIFIES as atheist, 4.1% identify as agnostic, and over 20% are 'unaffiliated'). And yet, how many atheist places of worship are there in your town? ZERO. Because atheism is a LACK of belief in something. It has no dogma.

    Santa Claus does not exist, nor did he ever. There is no man in a red suit with a white beard that lives at the north pole, gets in his sleigh and delivers toys to children. The Easter Bunny does not exist. There is no giant rabbit that runs around planting Easter Eggs for the kids to find.

    You might be the worst debater I've ever seen on this forum. You aren't JUST a troll, you actually try for substance, but your posts are a complete failure. They demonstrate lack of intelligence, lack of critical thinking skills and no logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    As usual, a galactically stupid post from you. I did not nor have I EVER attempted to prove God does not exist.
    Yes you did, liar. You did that in your last post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    So your suggestion that I did is yet another lie from you.
    Not a suggestion. You tried to prove God does not exist. You tried to do so by bringing up the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, and the Tooth Fairy; and making a false equivalence fallacy as well as a circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    You seem to be a compulsive liar.
    Inversion fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Anyone who does not believe in God is an atheist.
    Nope. Anyone who does not believe in any god or gods is an atheist. There are a lot of people that do not believe in God that are not atheists, such as those that practice Shinto or Buddhism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    They do not self identify, they simply exist.
    Atheists self identify. They call themselves atheists, and make sure as many people that can get to know it, know it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    So your Pew Research number is nonsense.
    I've often felt the same way about Pew research. We agree. As far as I'm concerned, they are just a random number generator.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Not only is it nonsense, it's yet another lie you are telling. According to PEW research, 3.1% of the population IDENTIFIES as atheist, 4.1% identify as agnostic, and over 20% are 'unaffiliated').
    Math error. That's 3.1% of 1.5%. I guess you can't read or do math either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    And yet, how many atheist places of worship are there in your town? ZERO.
    Religions need not be organized. I would say one of the places of your worship is right here in this forum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Because atheism is a LACK of belief in something. It has no dogma.
    A 'lack of belief' is a belief, in and of itself. Your dogma is your initial circular argument (or argument of faith), in that no god or gods exist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Santa Claus does not exist, nor did he ever.
    He did. It is in history. I have described where Santa 'Claus came from and how the name was changed from Saint Nicholas to Santa 'Claus.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    There is no man in a red suit with a white beard that lives at the north pole, gets in his sleigh and delivers toys to children.
    Here I agree. There is, however, no way to prove it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    The Easter Bunny does not exist. There is no giant rabbit that runs around planting Easter Eggs for the kids to find.
    Here I agree. There is, however, no way to prove it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    You might be the worst debater I've ever seen on this forum.
    Inversion fallacy. Redefinition fallacy. There is no debate on forums. Only discussions. There is nothing formal about any arguments presented on a forum. The only rules are those set by the forum operators, and have nothing to do with the form of any argument...just it's content.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    You aren't JUST a troll,
    Ah, the usual copout when someone is losing. call 'em a troll.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    you actually try for substance, but your posts are a complete failure.
    Bulverism fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    They demonstrate lack of intelligence, lack of critical thinking skills and no logic.
    Redefinition fallacy. Bulverism fallacy. Insult fallacy. Inversion fallacy.

    Four in one sentence. You're getting good at creating errors in logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post

    Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
    Naa-unnh, son. He asked first....if you can't or won't answer the question, don't try to dodge.
    Nope. Mine was not a question.
    Yours is just a dodge, as the chronology of the post clearly shows the question was put to you first. So shyte or get off the pot. FAIR IS FAIR.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

    George Orwell

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