What kind of "Christian values" do Conservatives want?

[rjhenn]

Disagreed on backpedaling. Correct; it's a good example of taking something on faith even though it's based upon Natural Universe rules. It's just a theory. If you are as educated as you believe yourself to be, then you'll take a closer look at the math and examine how the variables were derived (consider GIGO). All are educated guesses because, as you should know, there is zero evidence of non-terrestrial life. That said, like you, I have faith in the math even though it's unproved.


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The math is based on reality. Faith in God is based on wishful thinking.

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[rjhenn]

And it's always inferior in capability and standard of care to the U.S..

BS. Outcomes are usually better than in the U.S.. Also a distinct lack of bankruptcies due to medical expenses.

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[rjhenn]

Yeah, that's why the ones who can come here for treatment.

More people leave the U.S. for medical than come here. Those that come here usually do so because their country doesn't have the population density to support specialized care centers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_tourism

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[rjhenn]

Chronically homeless don't vote from their cardboard boxes. No legal address. Some don't even have ID. Most are mentally ill so even if the bleeding hearts and Christians got them registered and offered to pick them up on election day, they will most likely not show.

https://people.howstuffworks.com/hom...-isnt-easy.htm

Modern conservatives are severely paranoid, as they keep demonstrating here.

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[Doc Dutch]

The math is based on reality. Faith in God is based on wishful thinking.

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If that was true then you'd be able to demonstrate the math cacluating how much life exists elsewhere in the galaxy. You can't because they are all guesses. GIGO. <---I mentioned that before along with Fermi's Paradox. The fact remains you, like me, have faith the math is a reasonable assumption althought the Fermi question should give everyone pause.

Secondly since you've declared as fact that God doesn't exist, not simply "disbelieve", it means you are an atheist who has faith in something he cannot prove. Good luck with that!

BTW, it's fine to "disbelieve" there is no force behind creation of the universe and/or no existence beyond the mortal one. Stating it as fact without evidence is as unreasonable as a Televangelist declaring Jonah spent 3 days inside the belly of a whale.

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[Doc Dutch]

Modern conservatives are severely paranoid, as they keep demonstrating here.

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It is an emotional judgement, not a scientific one, for you to believe that the RWNJs on this forum are typical "Modern conservatives" who do, indeed, display a distinct level of paranoia, schizophrenia, a shit ton of phobias and all the classiness of Irritated Bowel Syndrome.


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[rjhenn]

If that was true then you'd be able to demonstrate the math cacluating how much life exists elsewhere in the galaxy. You can't because they are all guesses. GIGO. <---I mentioned that before along with Fermi's Paradox. The fact remains you, like me, have faith the math is a reasonable assumption althought the Fermi question should give everyone pause.

Secondly since you've declared as fact that God doesn't exist, not simply "disbelieve", it means you are an atheist who has faith in something he cannot prove. Good luck with that!

BTW, it's fine to "disbelieve" there is no force behind creation of the universe and/or no existence beyond the mortal one. Stating it as fact without evidence is as unreasonable as a Televangelist declaring Jonah spent 3 days inside the belly of a whale.

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There is no more evidence for the existence of God than there is for the existence of extraterrestrial life. Less, actually, since we know that life exists.

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[rjhenn]

It is an emotional judgement, not a scientific one, for you to believe that the RWNJs on this forum are typical "Modern conservatives" who do, indeed, display a distinct level of paranoia, schizophrenia, a shit ton of phobias and all the classiness of Irritated Bowel Syndrome.


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I don't see much difference between the RWNJs here and the ones I see elsewhere.

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[Mason Michaels]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capita...ent_state_laws

I was speaking of those that jump gays,outside of Gay Bars!

[bhaktajan]

The math is based on reality. Faith in God is based on wishful thinking.

IRS collector vs Farmers?

[bhaktajan]

For how many years has there been

Radio,
Television,
Cars,
Aeroplanes,
Hot-Air ballons,
Rifles & Guns & cannons,
Gas stoves,
Bicycles...?

So now since the age of Athens & the Pharaohs ...

YOU ARE ENLIGHTENED ABOVE THEM ALL...because you use a bicycle rather than teletransportation.

Let's called then 'Spocks'

[Doc Dutch]

I don't see much difference between the RWNJs here and the ones I see elsewhere.

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I do not doubt that’s all you see.

In his book “1776” David McCullough wrote what made George Washington a great man: "He had the salient quality of being able to see things the way they were instead of the way he wanted them to be."

Most people see things the way they want them to be instead of the way they are. Which doesn’t make them, or you, bad. It just makes you average. Good luck with COVID!

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[Saudade]

Actually, the Right in most European countries is only different from the Left in that they're Ethnic Nationalists. When things like universal healthcare went mainstream in Europe, the Right was forced to admit that it worked well. However, because multiracialism never worked, the Right never had to change their stance on this one issue.
It's kind of the same situation in America, just to a smaller degree. The Right was forced to accept abolition, women voting, Catholic immigration, having a Catholic president, and gay marriage. I'm hoping that Democrats will pass Medicare for All at some point, the Republicans will cry for a few months, then eventually accept it as just a normal part of American life.
This is what I mean by liberalizing the Right. We need to make the Right accept every liberal policy that works well, to the point where the only things they're fighting for are Ethnic Nationalism, freedom of association, and states' rights.

As far as the bolded is concerned, it's been a while since the left has passed anything that works well.

Gay marriage might have been a more recent win for them, but plenty of younger conservatives had no problem with that. That was more of a generational issue than most.

Medicare for All is a terrible idea. Now, if the proposal is to convert our healthcare system into something that is more like the French system, then that would probably work.

[StoneByStone]

As far as the bolded is concerned, it's been a while since the left has passed anything that works well.

Gay marriage might have been a more recent win for them, but plenty of younger conservatives had no problem with that. That was more of a generational issue than most.

Medicare for All is a terrible idea. Now, if the proposal is to convert our healthcare system into something that is more like the French system, then that would probably work.

Well it's a lot harder to pass left-wing policy in America. The Right is able to use the fear of multiracialism to get people to resist change, which is what happened with the rise of Trump. But when the Left does accomplish something, it's generally well-received. The ACA wasn't great, because Obama had to keep the Capitalists happy, but it worked pretty well and most Americans ended up embracing it.

That's part of how the Right becomes more liberal. Each generation is more liberal than the last, including among Conservatives. Younger Conservatives didn't have a problem with Catholic immigration, but that couldn't really happen until enough of the old generation died off. Then when we did let in Catholics in large numbers and the world didn't end, Catholic immigration became so normal, that's it's no longer a political issue. The exact same thing happened with gay marriage.
And like clockwork, younger Conservatives are more open to trans rights and making healthcare more affordable. Eventually, these things will happen on a large-scale, most Conservatives will decide they like them, and then they will no longer be considered political issues.

[Mason Michaels]

As far as the bolded is concerned, it's been a while since the left has passed anything that works well.

Gay marriage might have been a more recent win for them, but plenty of younger conservatives had no problem with that. That was more of a generational issue than most.

Medicare for All is a terrible idea. Now, if the proposal is to convert our healthcare system into something that is more like the French system, then that would probably work.

French System is the best in the world