"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
ThatOwlWoman (05-04-2020)
Did anyone say Trump "caused it?" "started it?" or "infected anyone with it?" Did Bush cause or start 9/11? Did Obama cause or start the Great Recession?
What all of them did though is respond to the associated crisis, they took leadership roles, something Trump has not done choosing instead to play political games with November serving as the common denominator. And along the way he has stumbled from one blunder into another
And blaming China or WHO are deflections, how does blaming others help us address the pandemic here, they are only scapegoats Trump uses to hide his own lack of leadership
ThatOwlWoman (05-04-2020)
Was true then and is not true now!
PoliTalker (05-04-2020), ThatOwlWoman (05-04-2020)
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Why yes Arsecheese, you and the battalion of leftist buffoons on this forum and the PHONY media.
Saying that Trump has not taken a leadership role is a pile of buffoonish bile Arsecheese.
NONE of the so-called experts have been right yet. I am amused that willful idiots like you think they even know what thew fuck they are talking about when every day they are changing their minds, walking things back....first it's not to worry, then it's masks don't help, then it's everyone has to wear a mask.
Another painfully stupid asinine statement; I don't think you even comprehend the definition of deflection or you wouldn't do it while lying in every post.
The W.H.O and China are the reasons this virus escaped China in the first place you willful moron. It's not a deflection; unless you are a moron who calls facts deflections.
Facts for the willfully stupid:
How the W.H.O. led by Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus failed the world:
On December 30, Chinese doctor Li Wenliang warned colleagues about the outbreak of an illness resembling severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS),
But Chinese authorities didn’t reward Li; they summoned him to the Public Security Bureau in Wuhan on accusations that he had made false statements and disrupted the public order.
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) followed up with numerous other arrests, and publicly warned that it would punish anyone spreading “rumors” on social media.
On January 14, the WHO stated that there was “no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus.”
On January 28th, WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus flew to Beijing for a meeting with Chinese president Xi Jinping, who so impressed Tedros that he lauded Chinese authorities for “setting a new standard for outbreak control,” praising their “openness for sharing information.”
When the WHO emergency committee discussed whether to declare COVID-19 a public-health emergency on January 23, international observers had definitively discredited Chinese health data. Yet Tedros relied on those data in arguing against declaring an emergency — over the objections of other committee members.
After finally declaring an emergency on January 30, Tedros continued to lavish praise on China. As late as February 20, he argued that Chinese actions were “slowing the spread [of coronavirus] to the rest of the world.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...zation-failed/
Trump declared a National Health Emergency before we had many cases or any deaths. The W.H.O. didn't declare this a pandemic until March 11th.
The Democratic Party of the Jackass was still distracted by their idiotic impeachment of Trump.
The ONLY person who seemed to get it was Trump.
WHO chief says widespread travel bans not needed to beat China virus
February 3, 2020
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKBN1ZX1H3
#moron
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Truth Detector (05-04-2020)
Well, to use your own vernacular, that is flat out lie, I never said Trump "caused it," "started it?, or "infected anyone with it," in fact, something you seem to struggle with, I can't recall anyone else but you saying Trump "caused it," "started it," or "infected others with it"
Leadership role, huh, so when we got the individual States fighting against each other, foreign nations, and even Trump's own Federal Gov't to obtain needed front line resources to fight the pandemic Trump is taking a leadership role? Sending mixed messages to the American public in a time of crisis is taking a leadership role? Fabricating information and disseminate ludicrous advice when Americans are looking for direction is taking a leadership role? Dividing Americans in a time of crisis is taking a leadership role? etc, etc, etc
Again, even if the "W.H.O and China are the reasons this virus escaped China" how does wasting time belaboring the point help us address the virus in America today? What does it do to bring the inflected and death numbers down? How does it help us open up the economy? As I said, a deflection
And this is an instant classic, "The ONLY person who seemed to get it was Trump," yeah, going from hoax to being forced to recognize a pandemic really portrays "the only person who seemed to get it"
More dishonest hackery; you don't have to say it Arsecheese, you INFER it.
Another lie filled strawman argument. Sorry shit-for-brains; I don't debate liars. This disease was not about resources; it was about the FAILURE of the W.H.O. and lies by China, the source of the epidemic.
Because you are a dishonest partisan hack moron, I will spell it out for you; if not for the W.H.O. and Chinese lies, we wouldn't even have needed to look for supplies.
So Fauci is a liar and poor leader? After all, Brix, the experts and Fauci have ALL sent mixed messages and walked back their statements and predictions. But if Trump does it, he is a liar and not a leader?
#STFU seriously.
More lies; what information did Trump "fabricate" and when did he disseminate any advice? #STFU Seriously.
Epic irony; a lying leftist along with the PHONY media who have been dividing this nation since Trump's election suggesting that Trump is the divider? #STFU Seriously.
It isn't an IF you willful idiot; it is a FACT! This is why I hate arguing with dishonest hack idiots like you; you can't differentiate a FACT from your strawmen.
What does Trump have to do with the number of deaths? The FAKE death count that links everything with Covid I might add. Has ANYONE died from the virus itself?
Arsecheese whining about deflections while deflecting. You reallt are too stupid for words. You are to dishonest for facts. You are nothing but an uneducated, lying low IQ partisan hack on steroids.
I gave you the FACTUAL timelines arsecheese; I can't help it if you are too fucking stupid, too fucking ignorant and too fucking dishonest to comprehend them. #fuckoffandDie
Again, for the millionth time because you are such a dishonest lying hack; Trump never called the virus a hoax, he called the lie filled narrative by the PHONY media the hoax.
Given the facts, he is 100% accurate. Something you can never hope to be.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
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ThatOwlWoman (05-04-2020)
Hi Frank,
I disagree with that.
I'm tellin ya there are smart people backing him. Problem is: A lot of them are the greedy type. All of the greediest and most powerful ruthless rich Americans are supporting him. He flaunts the system. They want to flaunt the system too (some of them already do...) Sure there are idiots and fools supporting him. There are idiots and fools supporting Biden, too. There's smart people and dumb people on both sides. Wise ones and fools on both sides. It really boils down to their values.
You can tell yourself it's only fools, but smart people can both be fooled sometimes, and/or simply not care about other people because they are selfish greedy diabolical ruthless power junkies who only care about their own wealth. People like that support him, and they are laughing all the way to the bank. It's all a big game to them. He who racks up the greatest wealth wins. And they don't care about you, the country, the environment, or anybody else. They care about themselves, having power, and getting rich. They think they're special.
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ThatOwlWoman (05-04-2020)
Hello ThatOwlWoman,
He will just go on Twitter and LIE, go and TV and LIE, and nobody has the nerve to call him on it. Just once, I'd like to see a reporter ask the president: "Sir, Why did you say something that you knew was not true?"
Of course that would be the last thing that reporter would ever get to say to the president, but can't somebody take this bold career choice and lay it down for the cause? He'd flip out and tear off into a rant, and of course never answer the question. Would be good to have that clip to keep playing back from now until November 3rd.
I guess there's no point, really, in trying to set him up to look like a fool.
He does that quite well all by himself, and it doesn't matter. Nothing is changing the views of his most ardent supporters.
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ThatOwlWoman (05-04-2020)
Got to love the phrase by phrase break down, priceless
So you admit you lied, I never said it, but now I "inferred" Trump "caused," "started.", and"infected" others with the virus. That is equally as bogus, but you got to laugh it coming from the poster who claimed Trump didn't look for a quid pro quo from the Ukraine cause Trump never said quid pro quo
Next we got I don't "debate liars" after he just admitted to a lie, and even then, he goes off on his China rant again without ever addressing the content he is responding to
Then we move on to Trump don't fabricate, wrong (https://apnews.com/a1d16fcee53b904ed63637a714944d2c), and this is only from last night's propaganda bit FOX did for him, and as far as disseminating any advice, I guess "what do you have to lose" was just a floating idea
Next we have the left and media divided the nation, although even going back to January, Trump was telling us that it all was a Democrat hoax, not to mention Trump's personal attacks from the podium on indviduals he doesn't like, "that lady from Michighan"
Then, in response to the simple question how does wasting time belaboring the point help us address the virus in America today, what does it do to bring the inflected and death numbers down, how does it help us open up the economy, "anything but the truth's" answer is "what does Trump have to do with the number of deaths," "the FAKE death count"
And then he finishes up with the extended "you are a ........," you are a ...........," and more of the same
As I've said, always entertaining
Frank Apisa (05-05-2020)
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