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Captain Bligh Was Not All Bad
https://www.rmg.co.uk/explore/william-bligh
Bligh was no worse than ship’s captains in the Royal Navy at that time. In fact, Bligh was a crackerjack navigator who sailed an open boat 4,000 miles to land without losing a man. No small task even today.
NOTE: H.M.S. Pinafore led to reforms in the Royal Navy in 1878:
To this day a ship’s master is the last absolute monarch in the world.
My point: Every Democrat claiming a smidgen of unconstitutional authority acts like Captain Bligh while President Trump is being painted as a tyrannical ship’s captain.
Finally, a seaman friend of mine used to do a dynamite impersonation of Charles Laughton doing Captain Bligh in the 1935 movie Mutiny on the Bounty ordering a frightened midshipman to climb to the top of the mainmast during a violent storm: “When you come down, Sir, you better come down with a bit of re — luc — tance.”
Captain Trump should order every wannabe Democrat Bligh lying about the coronavirus: “To the top of the mainmast with you, Sir, and you better go up with a bit of reluctance.”
The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer
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If Bligh = Trumpf, count me in with Fletcher Christian every time, though his second name might put Republicans off.
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To Penderyn: Big surprise! You put in with a criminal who got away with mutiny.Originally Posted by Penderyn
FLETCHER CHRISTIAN (1764 - 1793)
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Note that Christian is being transformed into a “social revolutionary” in the same vein as:
RHETORICAL QUESTION: Why is it that touchy-feely freakazoids always have a good word for Socialists/Communists, while they never say a good word about the form of government this country’s Founders gave us?
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The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer
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I, for one, do not think that Trump acts like Captain Bligh.
I KNOW he acts like a petulant 5 year old, out-of-control brat.
And I am pretty sure it is not an act!
ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!
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Correct. As far as anyone knows all the mutineers died/killed on or around Pitcairn Island except for one.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Flanders (04-15-2020)
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So compare Trump to Mussolini, and we will get a "Mussolini was not all bad."
Russian trolls and their supporters go on Ignore, automatically: no second chance.
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LOL. Funny, but Trump doesn't even measure up to Mussolini's mistress not Mussolini. Can't be compared to Captain Bligh either since Captain Bligh was a competent captain.
It's ridiculous to compare Trump to even a tin-plated Third World dictator much less the fascist leader of Italy or any other First World nation. Trump isn't a dictator, he's just a wannabe dictator. He's news announcement saying that only he has the authority to open the states is just the latest example of his delusions of grandeur.
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To jimmymccready: You got that part right from a flaming Democrat’s perspective:
. . . if liberals were honest they would cite Benito Mussolini instead of Hitler. Il Duce is the father of fascism not Hitler. Liberals give Mussolini a pass because they get more mileage out of Hitler than he ever got out of the Afrika Korps.
Today’s Democrats label everyone a fascist who attacks any part of their political agenda. Oppose socialized medicine and you a fascist. Secure our borders and you are fascist. Abolish any welfare state program and you are a fascist. Speak out against infanticide and you are a fascist. Withdraw from the United Nations and you are a fascist. Demand Voter ID laws and you are a fascist. The list is endless.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...62#post2804362
A detailed look at Mussolini and Democrats is more informative:
Benito Mussolini (1883–1945), not Hitler, was the Father of Fascism. He was a journalist before he was a dictator. Mussolini’s profession before becoming a dictator does not say anything important when applied to the totalitarian element in American television journalism, but it certainly offers some interesting food for speculation about the use of propaganda apparatus —— just as Il Duce used it in his time. Nobody knows how to use the tools of propaganda better than a journalist. There may not be a budding Mussolini among the lot of them, but who can say they are not collectively looking for a leader to guide us all to Shangri-la? Clinton and Obama fell short, but there is no reason for television to call off the search.
This is the only thing that turns Democrats against Mussolini:
When Benito Mussolini addressed the Socialists in the Italian Chamber of Deputies, June 21, 1921 in his first speech as a member of parliament he said the following:
“We deny your internationalism, because it is a luxury which only the upper classes can afford; the working people are hopelessly bound to their native shores.”
. . . Mussolini’s criticism of internationalism made his argument meaningless when the United Nations began destroying national boundaries. Democrat fascists long-ago realized that mass migrations serve Communism’s cause much better than was fully understood in 1921 —— The League of Nations.
I will close with a bit more about Mussolini that might interest those who do not know he worked for MI5 during WWI:
Recruited by MI5: the name's Mussolini. Benito Mussolini
Documents reveal Italian dictator got start in politics in 1917 with help of £100 weekly wage from MI5
Tom Kington in Rome
Tuesday 13 October 2009
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ited-mi5-italy
I doubt if Mussolini did it for the money alone. He was too politically astute to hop in bed with the British without getting more than he was giving. It can be argued that he went on to become Italy’s dictator thanks to the help he got from the British. By the time WWII got going I will bet that British spy masters were doing a lot of soul-searching. MI5's manipulating Mussolini in 1917 obviously backfired.
How many spies in history ever did as well as Il Duce after hanging up their decoder rings? You might say that Mussolini mastered the art of using the people who were using him. That is the eternal dream of spies and informers.
There are all kinds of institutional spies as opposed to peeping Toms who spy on strangers and neighbors for their own gratification. Some spy on the people for their government; they usually work for the secret police or some such institution. Others act for foreign governments against their native country; they are traitors first and spies second. Some spies spy on foreign governments for their native land; they are the good guys.
Mussolini should be a lesson to all Americans. He was more than a politician who came to power in his own country. Being a secret agent for a foreign power added a fascinating dimension to his character; nevertheless, he was still a spy, and a traitor, at the time he was working for the British. It is safe to say that the Italian government would have executed him had they known what he was up to.
Those in high places in our government who work for the United Nations/International Community (UNIC) engage in Mussolini’s brand of treason without running the risk of being executed. Ask them what they are doing and they will tell you they are doing what is best for the country. None will admit that their abuse of power on behalf of foreign governments is treason.
NOTE: In the eyes of the Democrat Party their love of journalism absolves all of Mussolini’s sins:
Finally, Mussolini was a journalist and newspaper publisher when he was committing treason for the British government. In addition to being above suspicion the owners of America’s major news outlets are wealthier, and far more influential, than Mussolini was before he became Il Duce.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...21#post2940521
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A man who stood up to a bullying shit. I don't suppose you've met anyone with the guts to do that.
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Men Against the Sea follows the journey of Lieutenant William Bligh and the eighteen men set adrift in an open boat by the mutineers of the Bounty. The story is told from the perspective of Thomas Ledward, the Bounty's acting surgeon, who went into the ship's launch with Bligh. It begins after the main events described in the novel and then moves into a flashback, finishing at the starting point.
Highly recommended.
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^Agree.
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Thankee, Cap'n.
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