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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    You're here every damn day celebrating the deaths of Americans. What the fuck is wrong with you? Won't you be happy until this country implodes or dies?
    This is the Internet, my friend. Anyone can find something which supports a their confirmation bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    This is the Internet, my friend. Anyone can find something which supports a their confirmation bias.
    Agreed, but as RB, Duck Shit, Diesel and a few others continually prove, not everyone even bothers looking for it. They just post whatever bullshit flows into their brain housing.

    humor check:
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Hello Dutch Uncle,

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Trump's gift to the nation:

    The WH tree should be decorated with little foam versions of those.
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    Hello Controlled Opposition,

    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    This is the Internet, my friend. Anyone can find something which supports a their confirmation bias.
    Surely you are not conjecturing that this thread is anything but dead-serious and fact-based.

    I wanted to stay in touch with just how this is affecting our nation. No fooling oneself, no white-washing. What are the numbers?

    If we are not willing to look at them, THAT is a problem.

    If these statistics are bothersome, that's the point. They should be. We have done an atrocious job. It did not have to be this bad.

    This thread also establishes a searchable record. We can easily go and see when the surges have been. That can be matched up with leadership decisions.

    There's nothing like straight up data to cut through the BS political arguments.

    And I suspect that is why some try to grumble about this thread.
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    923 of every million Americans we had when this began, are now dead.

    Looks to me that we will surpass 1000 deaths for every million Americans before Christmas.

    That will make it 1 in a 1000 Americans lost.

    Leadership must be questioned about that.

    Could more have been done?

    Of course it could have.
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    Sunday

    12-14

    USA

    Total Cases 16,737,267

    New Cases +187,901

    Total Deaths 306,459

    New Deaths +1,379

    Total Recovered 9,724,439

    Active Cases 6,706,369

    Serious, Critical 27,611

    Tot Cases/1M pop 50,432

    Deaths/1M pop 923

    Total Tests 221,195,630

    Tests/1M pop 666,491
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    The gift of gab cannot spin numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The gift of gab cannot spin numbers.
    Give credit where it's due, PoliTalker.

    300,000 domestic deaths alone is a hell of body count for a hoax.
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
    Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Kris Kristofferson, 1969

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    Hello NiftyNiblick,

    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Give credit where it's due, PoliTalker.

    300,000 domestic deaths alone is a hell of body count for a hoax.
    Heard THAT.

    Who is dealing with reality and who is avoiding it?

    Those who will look at the numbers; or those who don't want to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post

    And I suspect that is why some try to grumble about this thread.
    There are many horrendous crimes committed by American presidents that pseudo-patriots don't want mentioned, loss of American lives in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.- but nobody ever imagined that an American president could lose more American lives than those - on the US mainland.

    All those who listened to Trump's insane virus advice during 2020- what do they think now that they see him STILL claiming to have won the election ?
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Controlled Opposition,



    Surely you are not conjecturing that this thread is anything but dead-serious and fact-based.

    I wanted to stay in touch with just how this is affecting our nation. No fooling oneself, no white-washing. What are the numbers?

    If we are not willing to look at them, THAT is a problem.

    If these statistics are bothersome, that's the point. They should be. We have done an atrocious job. It did not have to be this bad.

    This thread also establishes a searchable record. We can easily go and see when the surges have been. That can be matched up with leadership decisions.

    There's nothing like straight up data to cut through the BS political arguments.

    And I suspect that is why some try to grumble about this thread.
    Season's greetiongs PoliTalker,

    I said none of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    There are many horrendous crimes committed by American presidents that pseudo-patriots don't want mentioned, loss of American lives in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.- but nobody ever imagined that an American president could lose more American lives than those - on the US mainland.

    All those who listened to Trump's insane virus advice during 2020- what do they think now that they see him STILL claiming to have won the election ?
    One man is not responsible for this mess. People stupid enough to let politicians decide issues like masks are the problem.

    Given the halo-effect, we will never know how many afflicted with the virus were fully complying with the three rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    One man is not responsible for this mess.
    Trump's contribution to it has been massive.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

    Maria Ressa.

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    Hello Controlled Opposition,

    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    Season's greetiongs PoliTalker,

    I said none of the above.
    True dat. And your comment was not directed at me.

    Sorry if that came off as critical of anything you've said.

    I used your response as a kind of general response to the occasional criticisms surrounding this thread. Probably should have just made it as a general post.

    Happy holidays to you, too.

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    'Only' 1600 deaths yesterday.

    Relatively, that's fewer than on many recent days, but greater than the entire loss of life in the Titanic disaster.

    Would the right have called the Titanic disaster a hoax? Fake news?
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