Reply With QuoteEarl (11-02-2020)
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Hello Gamewell45,
That's why I like math. Numbers are numbers. No spin required!Originally Posted by Gamewell45
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Earl (11-02-2020)
Gamewell45 (11-13-2020)
Retired Teacher
So what does the CDC say when it comes to "numbers"?
Earl (11-02-2020)
Firebrand
But math doesn't account for spin, and that's where you reside.
Free speech is cool as long as it jibes with our program.
-- The Left
Earl (11-02-2020)
Satire for Sanity
PT just commented on spin.
" First they came for the journalists...
We don't know what happened after that . "
Maria Ressa.
PoliTalker (11-02-2020)
Verified User
What a load of fucking horseshit.
You already killed the Spirit of America by choosing Trump.
When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist
Earl (11-02-2020)
ThatOwlWoman (11-02-2020)
Retired Teacher
No....
Earl (11-02-2020)
Leftist Vermin
That's the one I've been looking at too. Being able to see how other nations are faring all on one page is helpful.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
PoliTalker (11-02-2020)
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello ThatOwlWoman,
I am pretty impressed with Taiwan.
7 deaths total.
They did things right.
They got really burned in the SARS pandemic, and then decided to act proactively after that. As soon as they heard there was a possible novel coronavirus in Wuhan, they sent a team to investigate. They knew better than to listen to Bejing. What they learned shocked them. Taiwan went into immediate mobilization against the new pandemic. There are normally thousands of people going back and forth from Wuhan to Taiwan. Taiwan immediately imposed travel restrictions. Anyone entering Taiwan from anywhere was forced to quarantine for 2 weeks. The government checked on them and monitored their status. Each quarantined person was given 14 face masks, a thermometer, food, and a log to fill in. They had to take their temperature several times a day, fill in their log, and report to monitors about their condition.
Smart proactive measures have resulted in Taiwan having only 7 deaths total at this point.
Very impressive!
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ThatOwlWoman (11-02-2020)
Leftist Vermin
Do you know how or if these measures affected their economy? Are they still practicing them?
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
PoliTalker (11-02-2020)
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello ThatOwlWoman,
I believe their economy was never shut down, because they successfully blocked the virus from entering their nation through early and stringent measures. I can find no stories about
Here is a recent story about their success:
AIPEI, Taiwan -- Taiwan hit 200 days without any domestically transmitted cases of COVID-19 on Thursday, highlighting the island's continued success at keeping the virus under control even as cases surge in other parts of the world.
Taiwan’s Center for Disease Control last reported a domestic case on April 12. CDC officials noted the milestone and thanked the public for playing a role, while urging people to continue to wear masks and to wash their hands often.
Since the pandemic began, Taiwan has recorded 553 cases of COVID-19, and just seven deaths. While it has stopped domestic transmission, it continues to record new cases in people arriving from abroad.
Taiwan has been pointed to as a success story in how to respond to the pandemic, especially considering its close business and tourism ties with China, where the virus first emerged late last year.
...
Its success has in part been attributed to acting very early on.
Taiwanese officials were checking passengers on flights from Wuhan, the Chinese city where the pandemic began, as early as Dec. 31 for fever and pneumonia symptoms, according to researchers writing in JAMA, a medical journal.
On Jan. 20, the government formally initiated the Central Epidemic Command Center to coordinate the government response between different departments and branches. The government also communicated effectively about the importance of wearing masks, while trying to prevent panic buying and price-gouging by rationing them.
The island was also quick to tighten its borders, suspending flights from Wuhan on Jan. 23, and banning the entry of Chinese nationals who reside in Wuhan.
Taiwan has a strict 14-day quarantine for all arrivals, whether Taiwanese or foreign."
Taiwan marks 200 days without domestic COVID-19 infection
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ThatOwlWoman (11-02-2020)
Leftist Vermin
Thanks. New Zealand did a good job too. It helps to be an island nation, for sure.
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Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello ThatOwlWoman,
No doubt, being a small island nation helps but that's not the whole metric. Madagascar is about the same population as Taiwan and more removed from Wuhan, without as much traffic back and forth, but they have 30 times the deaths per million of Taiwan.
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The number of Serious and Critical Cases is exploding.
We seem to have rounded the corner and now we are headed for more death.
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Diversity Makes Greatness
Monday
10-2
USA
Total Cases 9,567,543
New Cases +88,905
Total Deaths 236,997
New Deaths +522
Total Recovered 6,171,402
Active Cases 3,159,144
Serious, Critical 17,576
Tot Cases/1M pop 28,847
Deaths/1M pop 715
Total Tests 149,694,768
Tests/1M pop 451,345
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moon (11-03-2020)
Diversity Makes Greatness
88 thousand new cases.
Not good.
Not rounding the corner.
Still increasing.
No peak yet.
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