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    Well, it began on our west coast and moved east. West coast has been flattening out
    rather well. We should be next soon.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    isn't that about the same as a mild flu season?
    Every reputable epidemiologist I have heard disagrees with you that the risk is no different than the common seasonal cold

    What we have control over is how many people die. Business as usual - your preferred approach - means hundreds of thousands of deaths and an utterly overwhelmed health care system.

    The approach of California- my preferred approach; aggressive social distancing mandates - could keep the death toll down to tens of thousands and allow us to have a viable health care system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I see that conservatives are still downplaying the risk. It only seems like yesterday when they were telling us this was a Democratic hoax, that it was not any different than the common cold!
    The key to returning to work is testing, and testing is way behind in this nation. It’s shameful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I see that conservatives are still downplaying the risk. It only seems like yesterday when they were telling us this was a Democratic hoax, that it was not any different than the common cold!
    Initial symptoms are that of a common cold.
    Yeah I remember when Pelousy told people to get out and go to the parade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    you can thank the WHO for that (parroting China talking points)
    this isn't "conservatives" - it's an IHME projection
    Your president said six weeks ago we would soon be down to zero cases

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    they fucked up big time.
    China is to blame for the pandemic, but who came up with these crazy models that caused the shutdown?
    I think we use the Washington State one. The U.K. has one too.

    The models are clearly failing. Models are no better than their assumptions. I don’t know what their assumptions are/were but they were derived from thin data. Couldn’t get much from China and its apparent they *assumed* all states and regions would go the way of north Italy even though south Italy didn’t go the way of north Italy.

    It’s the only way they could get scary/ridiculous numbers. The whole country would have to contribute *significantly* to reach even near one million.

    It has all the makings of a cluster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    every reputable epidemiologist I have heard disagrees with you that the risk is no different than the common seasonal cold

    What we have control over is how many people die. Business as usual - your preferred approach - means hundreds of thousands of death and an utterly ovwrwhelmed health care system.

    The approach of California- my preferred approach; aggressive social distancing mandates - could keep the death toll down to tens of thousands and allow us to have a viable health care system
    WTF do you think we are DOING?? A COMPLETE SHUTDOWN is about as "aggressive" as it gets -
    unless you want Trump to seal us in our house like the Chinese did in Wuhan ( Trump being a "dictator"and all that).

    who said i wanted "business as usual" .what I want is to find out why the projections were so wrong
    and if there were better ways at mitigations.

    Because i got some news for you -the economy on the horizon is BROKEN -wait for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    The key to returning to work is testing, and testing is way behind in this nation. It’s shameful.
    While Trump was calling it a Democratic hoax, Korea was aggressivly testing, quarantining, monitoring and successfully getting a handle on this pandemic outbreak

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Your president said six weeks ago we would soon be down to zero cases
    Words.

    Your president put a travel ban on China before Obama would have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    While Trump was calling it a Democratic hoax, Korea was aggressivly testing, quarantining, and successfully getting a handle on this pandemic outbreak
    completely different society in size and scope
    If you want to blame da government, start with the CDC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Every reputable epidemiologist I have heard disagrees with you that the risk is no different than the common seasonal cold

    What we have control over is how many people die. Business as usual - your preferred approach - means hundreds of thousands of deaths and an utterly overwhelmed health care system.

    The approach of California- my preferred approach; aggressive social distancing mandates - could keep the death toll down to tens of thousands and allow us to have a viable health care system
    So now we have a totally fucked worldwide economic system as the price to pay. This was all predicated on there being exponential growth for years, in defiance of Farr's Law, and the fact that the virus is destroyed by UV.

    EPIDEMICS ALWAYS FLATTEN AND DECLINE ON THEIR OWN

    Fact is, the epidemic worldwide, far from “growing exponentially,” is slowing. And that was to be expected per what’s called “Farr’s Law,” which dictates that all epidemics tend to rise and fall in a roughly symmetrical pattern or bell-shaped curve. AIDS, SARS, Ebola, Zika – all followed that pattern. So does seasonal flu each year. COVID-19 peaks have already been reported in China, South Korea, and Singapore.

    Importantly, Farr’s Law has nothing to do with human interventions such as “social distancing” to “flatten the curve,” and indeed predates public health organizations. It occurs because communicable diseases nab the “low-hanging fruit” first (in this case the elderly with comorbid conditions), but then find subsequent fruit harder and harder to reach. Until more or less now, COVID-19 has been finding that fresh fruit in new countries, but it’s close to running out. So while many people assume that China contained its epidemic with draconian regulations, we actually have no evidence of that. Even the New York Times admitted South Korea recovered far more quickly with measures nowhere on the scale of China, although of course the Times still attributes that to human intervention, which assigning no role to Mother Nature.
    https://www.realclearmarkets.com/art...ia_487977.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Your president said six weeks ago we would soon be down to zero cases
    his aspirational hope was not a declarative metric

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Words.

    Your president put a travel ban on China before Obama would have.
    That was so prescient -at the time the WHO was against a travel ban!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    completely different society in size and scope
    If you want to blame da government, start with the CDC
    If anyone wants to single out one person who is responsible for a lot of deaths—it’s DeBlasio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    If anyone wants to single out one person who is responsible for a lot of deaths—it’s DeBlasio.
    he's a complete screw up for sure

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