Stretch (04-08-2020)
Stretch (04-08-2020)
TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..
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Stretch (04-08-2020)
What will these folks do if hydrochloroquine becomes a standard treatment for this disease? Keep pretending that doctors prescribe medication based on what the President says?
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TOP (04-08-2020), USFREEDOM911 (04-08-2020)
Based on the nature of the drug itself I don't see that happening, but it would definitely be a good thing if it does work. By itself it doesn't appear to be particularly effective; there are anecdotal reports though that purport to show it somewhat effective if combined with azithromycin. Obviously that antibiotic does not work against viruses but may help with the bacterial pneumonia that seems to be common with a COVID infection. I won't be trying that treatment as I'm allergic to the macrolide ABTs.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-sup...n/drg-20072362
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
The tests that I have seen show that it is helpful, but it definitely needs more than just anecdotal results and better testing. However, the idea that doctors are out prescribing this because Trump says so is flat absurd. Totally wacked out, just crazy AF... There is no Doctor out there who would prescribe any medication based on what Trump has said about it.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
ThatOwlWoman (04-08-2020), USFREEDOM911 (04-08-2020)
jesus you are dense.
Fauci has been dismissive of it as a therapy. Every time some reporter asks him- he waves off the various treatment combos as "anecdotal" THAT IS INCORRECT - the results are FACTUAL if not clinically proven .
By doing so he did not advocate for its use like Trump did.In fact he threw cold water on the entire protocol.
Fortunately th French and Chinese early results got out and other physicians saw the results and followed Trump's reasoning of "what have you go to lose?"
That's what I meant by he was speaking as an epidemiologist, and not a practicing MD providing therapy.
He did a disservice to front line doctors -who at least for the most part didn't listen to him;
unlike like the spazz you cite on the OP.
He also probably (?) influenced Cuomo and the MI. governor who early prohibited the use of hydroxychloroquine unless is was in a hospital setting
He fucked up - i find him an arrogant fool -my perspective.
That woman doctor is much more attuned to the clinical case results
Hydroxychloroquine reduces viral load in COVID-19 patients
https://www.virology.ws/2020/03/19/h...d-19-patients/
biomechanism of the early French results
I agree. OTOH it's entirely possible that patients are begging their prescribers for it based on what they've heard. Physicians will occasionally prescribe off-label if there is enough evidence to show that efficacy outweighs harm, but in general they do not. One example of this is the drug bupropion (Wellbutrin) that was originally used for treatment of anxiety and/or depression. It was found that it also helped patients quit smoking. Physicians prescribed it off-label for that purpose, and eventually it was approved for smoking cessation too.
So we will see about the hydrochloroquine and what becomes of it as a standard treatment for coronavirus.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
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