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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    So, you want to defend heroin dealers who kill people? Not just defend, but make them out to be some sort of heroes so you can sob about how awful it is that any of them would go to prison.

    Legality is one thing. Championing scum, as you're doing, is another.
    I didn't say I want to champion them. I said adults should be able to do what they want with their own bodies. I don't think people should do any drugs, but nobody should be arrested for choosing to do drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Doesn't the entire establishment do that? Like when the Right blames the conditions of black communities on Democrats, all of those "dEmS aRe ThE rEaL rAcIsTs" arguments, isn't that also saying the truth is racist?
    The truth isn't racist, fuckface. Don't you know anything?
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    The NRA president laughs his Multi-millionaire ass off with each NRA membership check that he cashes. He plays the "gun whores" as bigger idiots than trump does. I actually think that these buffoons are worried that "The Redcoats are Coming".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    The answer is drugs especially pot, you simpleton. That's the right-wings fault.
    Thank you, cockodile. Sometimes you gimps can make such a racket!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granule View Post
    The truth isn't racist, fuckface. Don't you know anything?
    The truth is always racist.

    Blacks have smaller brains. Blacks are much more violent than any other race. Blacks suck up welfare more than any other race. Blacks suck up the most medical services. Blacks default more on loans. Blacks make more insurance claims. Blacks pull down the academic performance of other races in the same classroom. Blacks have the lowest SAT scores. Blacks are ugly. Blacks constantly practice racial discrimination. Ad nauseum.

    And, so many Americans are in prison because blacks like to steal your stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granule View Post
    The truth isn't racist, fuckface. Don't you know anything?
    I didn't say it was racist. Try to reread my comment. I said it's not just "the Left" that does this. It's the entire establishment that uses "racism" to justify the state of Blacks in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    The answer is drugs especially pot, you simpleton. That's the right-wings fault.
    It's actually not drugs. 45% a federal prisoners are incarcerated over drug charges. Federal prisons aren't the majority of prison most prisoners are being held in state prisons.

    So you have about 96,000 people incarcerated in federal prison for drugs. And you have about 230,000 people incarcerated in state prisons for drugs. it's definitely the biggest chunk of the pie in both but it's nowhere near the majority. This isn't just smoking pot this is all drug offenses. I don't think people should be locked up for smoking pot. I don't know that they are in large numbers I didn't get that deep.

    So we're talking 320000 people out of 1.7 million that's not even a quarter. 4 drug users would rehab be better sure but how many of these drug offenders are there 4th and 5th offense? Is sending them to rehab going to do anything if they've already done it three or four times?

    If meth heads and people on PCP just stayed at home and got high that would be fine but they don't.

    people who do meth in heroin and all this other stuff they have an extremely expensive habit and have you ever had anything stolen from you? Have you ever had your house burglarized nine times out of 10 it's someone feeding a drug habit.

    I think it's good ideas catch them before they get there but some people you can't. This is what jail is for.

    Not like I said if you have a drug problem and you want to get help I think a court-ordered rehab program for you is probably better than prison. If it's your third or fourth time you sit your ass in prison. This is to stop you from doing it again. I don't think it should be a life sentence, but if we gave you a first chance and maybe even a second one and you threw it away fuck off.

    I think there may be something to Mental health. I think our society in general is sorely lacking in understanding of people with mental illness or just mental problems. and I think investing in that before people wind up in jail is probably more profitable than putting them in jail print the taxpayer at least. But nobody seems to give a s*** about that.

    I'm not against prison reform I think it's desperately needed. but I think what is needed before that is social reform to stop people from getting to that point in the first place. We don't have to worry about how badly we treat our prisoners if there's no one there.

    I think the big glaring problem that causes these problems mixed people turn to a life of crime is fatherless homes. Most of the people in prison are men. Most of them have traumatic childhoods. If we don't give a s*** about boys the population in prison is going to expand ever greater.

    This is a big stinking messy problem that is not going to be easily solved but it is the way to address prison populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I didn't say it was racist. Try to reread my comment. I said it's not just "the Left" that does this. It's the entire establishment that uses "racism" to justify the state of Blacks in America.
    I think it's condescending to say the state of blacks in America. We shouldn't be that balkanized. Black people are just people like anyone else they don't need a black community they need to be part of the larger community and as long as they're the blacks they're not. So they are going to feel alienated and they're not going to participate.

    Are you understood this from back in the 60s but that should should have ended.

    Most of the people I see doing this balkanizing are not really Democrats but there are far far left people social justice warrior types. There simply stoking the flames of hatred. Making this separate society of segregated black people.

    because black lives matter not anyone else is just black because they're black not because they're human.

    Don't get me wrong I don't think of this is done out of malice for black people I think it's done out of guilt. As if people today that weren't around in the 60s had anything to do with discrimination. I was born in the 80s the concept of that is alien to me. That's why I find these racist identity groups like black lives matter to be so horrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    I'd like a law against private prisons. or prison labor. id like legalization of all drugs. or a law against imprisonment for all non violent crimes.

    you keep being part of the fascist problem.
    Im not your legislative representative. You might have better luck with them.
    By the way i agree we should legalize drug use so long as we keep government out of making it a revenue stream. Great way to sink gangs and by extention, crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Im not your legislative representative. You might have better luck with them.
    By the way i agree we should legalize drug use so long as we keep government out of making it a revenue stream. Great way to sink gangs and by extention, crime.
    and we should get the government out of making human trafficking, kidnapping and slavery a revenue stream, a la incarceration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    and we should get the government out of making human trafficking, kidnapping and slavery a revenue stream, a la incarceration.
    No, that's just silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    No, that's just silly.
    no. you've just accepted evil fascism in your heart. you're broken.
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    republicans are on the left not the right,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    no. you've just accepted evil fascism in your heart. you're broken.
    If you violate your compact with society you forfeit your rights. Thats the basis of society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    If you violate your compact with society you forfeit your rights. Thats the basis of society.
    human trafficking is illegal. you're in violation. turn yourself in.
    Morality is a set of attitudes and behaviors which facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships. --AssHatZombie

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