Trump Is Up Against a Demographic Time Bomb

[Doc Dutch]

Right the way I've heard it explained is we have to do away with the idea of property. Even in the startrek universe that isn't possible because the planet is limited. Food and material are able to be replicated. But planets aren't.

Property must be infinite in order for it to work. Only then will people not covet. There is always a better location.

With interstellar travel, the property issue becomes moot. Like the colonization of the Americas by Europeans; there will always be those seeking adventure and a new life and there will be those who are content to stay in their hovels of the "old country" and live their entire lives within ten miles of their birthplace. Trying to confine the adventurers or push out those who like their hovels will always result in problems. Best to offer both options so everyone can be happy.

[Arks&sparka]

With interstellar travel, the property issue becomes moot. Like the colonization of the Americas by Europeans; there will always be those seeking adventure and a new life and there will be those who are content to stay in their hovels of the "old country" and live their entire lives within ten miles of their birthplace. Trying to confine the adventurers or push out those who like their hovels will always result in problems. Best to offer both options so everyone can be happy.

I think if we ever get to that point it will be the end of humanity. I think the desire for more is one of our key driving instincts. It's why communist/socialist regimes can't work. There will always be someone who wants more. Or people looking for adventure. In socialist are communist regimes these people have to be executed or they'll rip it to shreds that's why there's sometimes genocide.

[Doc Dutch]

I think if we ever get to that point it will be the end of humanity. I think the desire for more is one of our key driving instincts. It's why communist/socialist regimes can't work. There will always be someone who wants more. Or people looking for adventure. In socialist are communist regimes these people have to be executed or they'll rip it to shreds that's why there's sometimes genocide.

Strongly disagreed. Despite the fact all human beings share 99.9% identical DNA, our personalities run the gamut of people who like living in beehives and those who like the wide open spaces.

For socialism to work, there needs to be unlimited resources along with the outlet of space travel for those who are discontent to live under such a system.

[Arks&sparka]

Strongly disagreed. Despite the fact all human beings share 99.9% identical DNA, our personalities run the gamut of people who like living in beehives and those who like the wide open spaces.

For socialism to work, there needs to be unlimited resources along with the outlet of space travel for those who are discontent to live under such a system.

The thing is there is only one Earth.

[Doc Dutch]

The thing is there is only one Earth.

At the moment if you mean a habitable planet. Just like unlimited energy, it's a technical problem, not one that can't ever be accomplished.

[BattleofHodow]

So why should we start moving toward communism? At least as things are now the poor aren't starving to death.

Because we have issues that require government.

Why should we move towards Libertarianism?

[BattleofHodow]

With interstellar travel, the property issue becomes moot. Like the colonization of the Americas by Europeans; there will always be those seeking adventure and a new life and there will be those who are content to stay in their hovels of the "old country" and live their entire lives within ten miles of their birthplace. Trying to confine the adventurers or push out those who like their hovels will always result in problems. Best to offer both options so everyone can be happy.

You seem to glorify colonialism & adventure.

Colonialism was evil.

Covid-19 & losses of culture are also evils caused by adventure.

The World would probably be better off if we just more or less stayed in a smaller region.

[BattleofHodow]

I think if we ever get to that point it will be the end of humanity. I think the desire for more is one of our key driving instincts. It's why communist/socialist regimes can't work. There will always be someone who wants more. Or people looking for adventure. In socialist are communist regimes these people have to be executed or they'll rip it to shreds that's why there's sometimes genocide.

Communism is bad.

But I'm tempted to say it was not this bad.

20% wage losses in 2 generations is more like a Communist failure.

But. This is happening under Free Market Capitalism.

Communist societies of Eastern Europe became more homogeneous after WW2.


Capitalist societies in the Western Europe & the Americas decided to create less homogeneous societies.

Now today Russia is not richer than in the 1980s.

It is Capitalist & filled with Muslim illegals.

Moscow in 1990 was about 1%Muslim.
Today Moscow is 25-30% Muslim.

The Capitalists are the issue.

In Poland the Capitalists in the past years have complained about labor shortages.

As a result nearly a million Ukrainians came to Poland in 1 year.

More & more Chechens, Vietnamese, Chinese etc are moving to Poland.

The issue is Capitalism.

[Earl]

If you don’t like Capitalism, emigrate to Venezuela...bring food...and batteries.

[BattleofHodow]

Right the way I've heard it explained is we have to do away with the idea of property. Even in the startrek universe that isn't possible because the planet is limited. Food and material are able to be replicated. But planets aren't.

Property must be infinite in order for it to work. Only then will people not covet. There is always a better location.

I support private property.

But, I do believe in more parkland.

Private property is important it empowers peoples rights & gives them pride & potential to be more self reliant.

I actually believe more like Libertarians on this issue.

Property taxes make you property of local governments.

Property tax is also counterproductive to all classes.

[BattleofHodow]

If you don’t like Capitalism, emigrate to Venezuela...bring food...and batteries.

Capitalism deserves to be trashed.

Venezuela will still be Venezuela ethnically in 100 years.

The USA will be Mexico in 100 years.

Thanks Capitalism for hiring illegals.

[Doc Dutch]

You seem to glorify colonialism & adventure.

Colonialism was evil.

Covid-19 & losses of culture are also evils caused by adventure.

The World would probably be better off if we just more or less stayed in a smaller region.

Try smoking less pot, kid, and studying harder in college. Drop the chip on your 34 year old shoulders and try to man up for a change. You'll be happier for it and better for it, I guarantee you.

 

[Arks&sparka]

I support private property.

But, I do believe in more parkland.

Private property is important it empowers peoples rights & gives them pride & potential to be more self reliant.

I actually believe more like Libertarians on this issue.

Property taxes make you property of local governments.

Property tax is also counterproductive to all classes.

This discussion moreover you bore me. So I'm finished with you.

[BattleofHodow]

This discussion moreover you bore me. So I'm finished with you.

Then why are you here?
To mock everyone who you think has less money than you?

[BattleofHodow]

Try smoking less pot, kid, and studying harder in college. Drop the chip on your 34 year old shoulders and try to man up for a change. You'll be happier for it and better for it, I guarantee you.

 

I don't smoke pot.

You have a profound ignorance.

If we stayed on our continents.

The Native Americans wouldn't have suffered along with others.

Same applies to the spread of Covid-19 or HIV/ AIDS.

Same with invasive species & Blights to trees like the American Chestnut.