Earl (04-03-2020)
I read this several days ago and the MORE THE LIES about 'CHINA' not telling us that show up from TRUMP, RW MEDIA (and this board) the more I call BULLSHIT. OVERT lies. DANGEROUS lies.
The scientific community, so I'll assume the MEDICAL community, had access to the data on 1/8/2020, 29 days after a unique pneumonia showed up in WUHAN. China sequenced the genome and posted it on OPEN SOURCE platforms on FEB 8 . The date of the article below is 2 weeks later with PICTURES from the NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL of MED so they had access to it too. A Scottish virologist HEAPED PRAISE on the CHINESE at how fast they sequenced the virus...
CHINA DIDN'T TELL US ANYTHING? I think it is very safe to assume in CHINA, SCIENTISTS did not put this all OUT in a vacuum or in a pique of revolutionary independence. GOVERNMENTAL approval? You bet your ass!
That pace is “unprecedented and completely unbelievable,” said Andersen, who worked on sequencing
the Ebola genome during the 2014 outbreak. “It’s just insane."
So let me REITERATE, I CALL BULLSHIT! Heaping stinking piles of DEADLY bullshit from the ADMINISTRATION, RW wing media and members of this board!
STATNEWS - (Scientific journal owned by the BOSTON GLOBE -- US)
DNA sleuths read the coronavirus genome, tracing its origins and looking for dangerous mutations
By SHARON BEGLEY @sxbegle
JANUARY 24, 2020
- Electron micrographs of isolated 2019-nCoV particles (left), and in cells from human airways (right), marked with arrows.
- THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE
As infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists race to contain the outbreak of the novel coronavirus centered on Wuhan, China, they’re getting backup that’s been possible only since the explosion in genetic technologies: a deep-dive into the genome of the virus known as 2019-nCoV.
Analyses of the viral genome are already providing clues to the origins of the outbreak and even possible ways to treat the infection, a need that is becoming more urgent by the day: Early on Saturday in China, health officials reported 15 new fatalities in a single day, bringing the death toll to 41. There are now nearly 1,100 confirmed cases there.
Reading the genome (which is made of RNA, not DNA) also allows researchers to monitor how 2019-nCoV is changing and provides a roadmap for developing a diagnostic test and a vaccine.
“The genetics can tell us the true timing of the first cases” and whether they occurred earlier than officials realized, said molecular biologist Kristian Andersen of Scripps Research, an expert on viral genomes. “It can also tell us how the outbreak started — from a single event of a virus jumping from an infected animal to a person or from a lot of animals being infected. And the genetics can tell us what’s sustaining the outbreak — new introductions from animals or human-to-human transmission.”
Scientists in China sequenced the virus’s genome and made it available on Jan. 10, just a month after the Dec. 8
report of the first case of pneumonia from an unknown virus in Wuhan.
In contrast, after the SARS outbreak began in late 2002, it took scientists much longer to sequence that coronavirus. It peaked in February 2003 — and the complete genome of 29,727 nucleotides wasn’t sequenced until that April....
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Since the sequencing of the first 2019-nCoV sample, from an early patient, scientists have completed nearly two dozen more, said Andrew Rambaut of the University of Edinburgh, an expert on viral evolution. That pace is “unprecedented and completely unbelievable,” said Andersen, who worked on sequencing the Ebola genome during the 2014 outbreak. “It’s just insane.”
The genome of the Wuhan virus is 29,903 bases long, one of many clues that have led scientists to believe it is very similar to SARS.
By comparing the two dozen genomes, scientists can address the “when did this start” question. The 24 available samples, including from Thailand and Shenzhen as well as Wuhan, show “very limited genetic variation,” Rambaut concluded on an online discussion forum where virologists have been sharing data and analyses. “This is indicative of a relatively recent common ancestor for all these viruses.”...
https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/24/...and-mutations/
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WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
Earl (04-03-2020)
TRUMP IS SCAPEGOATING! And this board follows suit. Bottom line CHINA was more transparent than TRUMP by at least 2 months. NOW he got caught and he is TRYING HARD to blame them. They are returning to work as we type. BUT MAKE IT WELL UNDERSTOOD, IT IS A NEW NORMAL. We need to take a listen as Trump talks about a V curve on our returning to normal. He's full of shit.
China Hits Back at Report That It Hid Coronavirus Number
BY BLOOMBERG
APRIL 2, 2020 5:25 AM EDT
China rejected the American intelligence community’s conclusion that Beijing concealed the extent of the coronavirus epidemic, and accused the U.S. of seeking to shift the blame for its own handling of the outbreak.
Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying on Thursday defended as “open and transparent” China’s response to the virus first identified in December in the central Chinese city of Wuhan. She was responding to a Bloomberg News report saying that the U.S. intelligence community had concluded in a classified report to the White House that Beijing under-reported both total cases and deaths from the disease.
“Some U.S. officials just want to shift the blame,” Hua told a regular briefing in Beijing. “Actually we don’t want to fall into an argument with them, but faced with such repeated moral slander by them, I feel compelled to take some time and clarify the truth again.”
Hua questioned the speed of the U.S.’s response to the virus after banning arrivals from China on Feb. 2. “Can anyone tell us what the U.S. has done in the following two months?” she said.
China’s public reporting on cases and deaths is intentionally incomplete, Bloomberg reported Wednesday, citing three officials, who asked not to be identified because the report is secret. Two of the officials said the report concludes that China’s numbers are fake. The report was received by the White House last week, one of the officials said.
Since China first disclosed a new form of pneumonia on Dec. 31, the country has publicly reported about 82,000 cases and 3,300 deaths, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. That compares with more than 189,000 cases and more than 4,000 deaths in the U.S., which has the largest publicly reported outbreak in the world....
https://time.com/5814313/china-denie...g-coronavirus/
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WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
December 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization.
January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus.
January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus.
January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China.
January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles.
January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus.
January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response.
January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test.
January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.
January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.
January 31: The Trump Administration:
Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
Announced Chinese travel restrictions.
Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.
January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U.S. airports.
February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government.
February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.
February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs.
February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington.
February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine.
February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials.
February 12: The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Earl (04-03-2020)
FEBRUARY 8. CHINESE SCIENTISTS had genomed the disease and put it out for the WORLD to see! AND we knew it was from WUHAN so tell us again how TRUMP stopped travel if he didn't know anything?
AS USUAL, you don't bother with a SOURCE! Guess REPS don't have to have no stinking sources. Not on this board.
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
cancel2 2022 (04-02-2020), Earl (04-03-2020)
Get your facts straight ffs!! The stereo chemistry of the protein spikes wasn't published in Science until the 19th February! Of course it is totally bloody pointless talking to an idiot like you about enantiomers, chiral and achiral molecules.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-...nes-treatments
Last edited by cancel2 2022; 04-02-2020 at 09:37 PM.
Take it up with STAT MAGAZINE. I used their dates.
PS There is no such date on the page you posted. Put the damn link up. I'm not going down one of you clowns rabbit HOLES. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK NIH looked at them on FEB8? Or waited to RESEARCH it themselves before they put it up or ACKNOWLEDGED IT?
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
cancel2 2022 (04-02-2020)
Shtat Ragazine?
"Who’s behind the new publication?
STAT is produced by Boston Globe Media. Our headquarters is located in Boston but we have bureaus in Washington, New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Cleveland. It was started by John Henry, the owner of Boston Globe Media and the principal owner of the Boston Red Sox. Rick Berke is executive editor.
So is STAT part of The Boston Globe?
They’re distinct properties but the two share content and complement one another.
How will I be able to keep up with STAT’s coverage?
Visit our site, and visit often. You can also follow us on Facebook, on Twitter @statnews, and on LinkedIn."
vs
nih.gov
Last edited by Stretch; 04-02-2020 at 09:50 PM.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
cancel2 2022 (04-02-2020), Earl (04-03-2020)
Another ignorant POST. Do you know how many MEDICAL ENTITIES are in BOSTON? Some towns have car plants. Others have chicken factories. OTHERS HAVE MEDICAL COLLEGES, SPECIALTY MEDICINE CLINICS and AFFILIATED UNIVERSITIES. Boston Children's Hospital? Harvard Medical School? Brigham WOMEN'S Hospital? MIT? RING ANY BELLs? Boston has them ALL! AND MORE and in one of the smallest states in the UNION.
You stupid ignorant asshole. Where would like STAT, a BIOTECH magazine, to be headquartered? Cedar Rapids?
The dearth of COMMON KNOWLEDGE on this board is staggering!
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
cancel2 2022 (04-02-2020), Earl (04-03-2020)
cancel2 2022 (04-03-2020), Earl (04-03-2020)
Yes of course, it's vitally important to understand the stereochemistry involved. That is usually done by making a 3D map utilising X-ray crystallography. In essence this hasn't changed much since the days of Francis Crick, James Watson, Rosalyn Franklin and Maurice Wilkins when mapping out the structure of DNA.
You can read more about it in Nature
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2179-y
Last edited by cancel2 2022; 04-03-2020 at 03:22 AM.
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