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    Default Young doctors being asked to play God

    This looks like combat triage.

    Coronavirus: The young doctors being asked to play god

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52137160

    "The most anxiety I have is around ventilator allocation. Seeing people die is not the issue. We're trained to deal with death. Nor is it the volume of people dying. The issue is giving up on people we wouldn't normally give up on." She described a patient being brought in from an old people's home. He was already on a ventilator - and was "chronically vent dependent". His prospects were never great. But all she could see before her was the ventilator - and not the patient.
    "When he came in we were so desperate for vents," she told me, "all I wanted to do was get the ventilator off him. I wanted to get that vent off him to allow it to go to someone else."
    Playing god is not what this young woman thought she would be doing at this stage in her career.
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    Part of the Job. Make the Call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    This looks like combat triage.

    Coronavirus: The young doctors being asked to play god

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52137160

    "The most anxiety I have is around ventilator allocation. Seeing people die is not the issue. We're trained to deal with death. Nor is it the volume of people dying. The issue is giving up on people we wouldn't normally give up on." She described a patient being brought in from an old people's home. He was already on a ventilator - and was "chronically vent dependent". His prospects were never great. But all she could see before her was the ventilator - and not the patient.
    "When he came in we were so desperate for vents," she told me, "all I wanted to do was get the ventilator off him. I wanted to get that vent off him to allow it to go to someone else."
    Playing god is not what this young woman thought she would be doing at this stage in her career.
    What did you think would happen once GovCo became the sole health care provider? Look at any DMV office for a good example...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    What did you think would happen once GovCo became the sole health care provider? Look at any DMV office for a good example...
    When did the Government take over the Health Care Industry?
    Are you just making shit up again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    This looks like combat triage.

    Coronavirus: The young doctors being asked to play god

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52137160

    "The most anxiety I have is around ventilator allocation. Seeing people die is not the issue. We're trained to deal with death. Nor is it the volume of people dying. The issue is giving up on people we wouldn't normally give up on." She described a patient being brought in from an old people's home. He was already on a ventilator - and was "chronically vent dependent". His prospects were never great. But all she could see before her was the ventilator - and not the patient.
    "When he came in we were so desperate for vents," she told me, "all I wanted to do was get the ventilator off him. I wanted to get that vent off him to allow it to go to someone else."
    Playing god is not what this young woman thought she would be doing at this stage in her career.
    My heart breaks for them, it’s tragic enough that people are dying, but not having enough equipment is an entirely different matter. This will have a profound effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    When did the Government take over the Health Care Industry?
    Are you just making shit up again?
    Obamacare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Obamacare
    Meaning anybody can go to the Hospital?!?! The Horror!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Meaning anybody can go to the Hospital?!?! The Horror!
    Ever hear of a "certificate of need"? You need to get permission from GovCo to build a hospital or even purchase certain equipment. A doctor or group of doctors has to prove to the government that these things are needed. The profit motive that allows competition to increase supply and drive costs down isn't allowed. You and your libs friends wanted GovCo control, and you got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I give myself Dutch ovens View Post
    ["The most anxiety I have is around ventilator allocation. Seeing people die is not the issue. We're trained to deal with death. Nor is it the volume of people dying. The issue is giving up on people we wouldn't normally give up on." She described a patient being brought in from an old people's home. He was already on a ventilator - and was "chronically vent dependent". His prospects were never great. But all she could see before her was the ventilator - and not the patient. "When he came in we were so desperate for vents," she told me, "all I wanted to do was get the ventilator off him. I wanted to get that vent off him to allow it to go to someone else." Playing god is not what this young woman thought she would be doing at this stage in her career.
    Unconfirmed anecdote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasist View Post
    My heart breaks for them, it’s tragic enough that people are dying, but not having enough equipment is an entirely different matter. This will have a profound effect.
    Only if you're stupid enough to believe it without a shred of corroboration, and you certainly are, imbecile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Part of the Job. Make the Call.
    Yeah...if two people came in and only one ventilator was available.

    But this was a guy ON A VENTILATOR...a guy who had been on it BEFORE coming into hospital.

    Do you think it appropriate to just take it from him...and give it to someone else?

    And do you think it appropriate to give the power to do that to a doctor...with no restrictions?

    What if the second patient is the doctor's brother?

    This is a very nebulous area, Jack. Time for the powers that be...to do some serious thinking.
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    From the article: Half of the patients are undocumented, and don't speak English - they work in restaurants and are hotel chambermaids. They are not "plugged in". The calls for social distancing have passed them by.

    Does anyone believe this for a second? I'm calling BS on that.
    Every life matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    What did you think would happen once GovCo became the sole health care provider? Look at any DMV office for a good example...
    You just revealed you aren't an American; the US doesn't have a Universal Healthcare system. Are you a Canuck? A Brit? Some other monarchist like your buddy, the Thai cum cleaner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    From the article: Half of the patients are undocumented, and don't speak English - they work in restaurants and are hotel chambermaids. They are not "plugged in". The calls for social distancing have passed them by.

    Does anyone believe this for a second? I'm calling BS on that.
    The whole tale is unverified, and unverifiable, as far as I can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    From the article: Half of the patients are undocumented, and don't speak English - they work in restaurants and are hotel chambermaids. They are not "plugged in". The calls for social distancing have passed them by.

    Does anyone believe this for a second? I'm calling BS on that.
    It's New York City in the Queens area. Obviously you've never been...lucky you!
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