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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    H1N1 came from NORTH America -- Mexico.
    Congratulations on your first accurate, honest statement on this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOOMER REMOVER View Post
    By the time it was detected it was probably spreading in America anyway. Ad hoc border closures are not a quarantine and this crisis had proven them to be an extremely ineffective response to a pandemic.
    Yes, preventing all illegal immigration from the country a disease is coming from couldn't possibly make the outbreak more containable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    Obviously, Ebola is nowhere near as contagious as COVID, dumb-ass.
    Other than your glorious globular shitgibbon fuehrer, who claimed that it was?

    You are sure easily triggered. I like that in a plaything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOOMER REMOVER View Post
    By the time it was detected it was probably spreading in America anyway. Ad hoc border closures are not a quarantine and this crisis had proven them to be an extremely ineffective response to a pandemic.
    You're right. #COVID-45 closed the barn long after the horses escaped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Other than your glorious globular shitgibbon fuehrer, who claimed that it was?
    Try to follow along (we can break out the crayons if necessary):

    1) Ebola kills up to 90% of the people it infects (that means it's a much more dangerous crisis than COVID).

    2) Ebola is far less contagious than COVID, which is basically the common flu (this means it was much easier to contain and Obama still failed to contain it, while President Trump could NEVER have contained COVID).

    These two facts together meant that your little meme is based on garbage logic. Have you mustered up the brain power to follow this yet?



    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    You are sure easily triggered. I like that in a plaything.
    Yes, pointing and laughing at your self-discrediting ignorance and hysteria is "being triggered."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    So the guy who waited 6 months to even declare a national emergency for H1N1 after it had already infected millions of Americans and killed more than a thousand...is smearing the president who IMMEDIATELY banned travel from China (which Democrats opposed and smeared him as racist for while demanding that he focus on the flu instead), expanded screenings, forced quarantines, established a coronavirus incident management system, and started work on a vaccine...as not reacting quickly enough?
    "Even after the H1N1 pandemic that claimed as many as 18,000 American lives according to CDC estimates, Obama's response to the Ebola pandemic later is his presidency was similarly wrought with problems--so much so that even the Obama White House and the CDC acknowledged there were multiple “shortcomings” in the administration’s response. Those shortcomings may have been the result of Obama axing the White House pandemic response office in 2009, which was reinstated in 2016 specifically because of his administration's poor response to the Ebola pandemic."

    Barack Obama Falsely Accuses Trump of 'Ignoring Warnings of a Pandemic'

    OOPS



    Since then, the CDC has been under the leadership of a temporary acting director, even though the directorship is internationally recognized as "one of the most crucial public health positions in the government given the CDC's role in tracking and stopping infectious disease outbreaks in the United States and worldwide."

    In addition to lacking a director,
    more than 125 job categories — each of which applies to multiple positions — are blocked from being filled. Vacant positions include many within the Office of Public Health Preparedness and Response, which stores and monitors the world's most lethal bacteria and viruses, and maintains U.S. stockpiles of necessary countermeasures in case of an outbreak.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    Try to follow along (we can break out the crayons if necessary)
    And don't forget to type in a huge font size because that means you're so much smarter than the rest of us.

    1) Ebola kills up to 90% of the people it infects (that means it's a much more dangerous crisis than COVID).
    Wrong. Pathogens that kill quickly and thoroughly burn themselves out far faster than pathogens like the coronavirus and influenza families. Therefore, although deadly to those unfortunate enough to find themselves at ground zero of an outbreak, there is less risk of a pandemic. Here, learn something:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...sars-ebola-flu

    2) Ebola is far less contagious than COVID, which is basically the common flu (this means it was much easier to contain and Obama still failed to contain it, while President Trump could NEVER have contained COVID).
    Correct on the R-naught factor of COVID vs Ebola. Incorrect comparison with influenza. See link, above.

    These two facts together meant that your little meme is based on garbage logic. Have you mustered up the brain power to follow this yet?
    And now I'm done pretending you're intelligent and have an ability to learn. Have a lovely day, and don't forget to wash your paws.

    Oh, and remember that #COVID-45 did say this:

    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Trump is working on a vaccine? WE'RE SAVED!

    “I like this stuff. I really get it,” Trump said during a tour of the CDC in Atlanta. “People are really surprised I understand this stuff. Every one of these doctors said: ‘How do you know so much about this?’”
    OMFG, please keel over, Orange weirdo. If I had a dollar for every long winded soliloquy in which the orange tard interrupted himself to shame-brag, I'd be richer than he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    OMFG, please keel over, Orange weirdo. If I had a dollar for every long winded soliloquy in which the orange tard interrupted himself to shame-brag, I'd be richer than he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    OOPS



    Since then, the CDC has been under the leadership of a temporary acting director, even though the directorship is internationally recognized as "one of the most crucial public health positions in the government given the CDC's role in tracking and stopping infectious disease outbreaks in the United States and worldwide."

    In addition to lacking a director,
    more than 125 job categories — each of which applies to multiple positions — are blocked from being filled. Vacant positions include many within the Office of Public Health Preparedness and Response, which stores and monitors the world's most lethal bacteria and viruses, and maintains U.S. stockpiles of necessary countermeasures in case of an outbreak.


    [link:https://americanindependent.com/trum...mpression=true|]
    Boy you just unthinkingly gobble down ALL the Kool-Aid, huh?

    Perhaps if you weren't so busy getting your news from unhinged ultra-partisans like American Independent (even the wildly biased mediabiasfactcheck admits they're on the lunatic fringe), you might realize all the gaping holes in this fallacy-riddled talking point.



    Attachment 14783

    Let's review:

    1) Discrediting scandals like these are why the corrupt incompetence of CDC and NIH has not been rewarded with filled vacancies (scandals that occurred under Obama, if you want to blame someone). You don't throw your support behind fundamentally broken institutions.

    2) Democrats weaponized and politicized virtually every part of the government under Obama, many of which have abused their power for partisan gain and ideological bullshit (like the CDC's anti-gun propaganda). Don't maximize the swamp's corrupt, power-abusing sleaze and then whine about President Trump refusing to play along and give your corrupt, incompetent (often openly partisan) swamp hacks a future in government.



    3) Not filling swamp vacancies in no way indicates that the operations of those offices were compromised.

    4)
    -Democrats caused the mask shortage. -Democrats caused the ventilator shortage.
    -Democrats put bureaucratic FDA red tape in the way of responding to this crisis.
    -Democrats opposed the China travel ban that saved thousands of American lives.
    -Democrats attacked President Trump as overreacting in the beginning and demanded that he prioritize the flu instead.
    -Democrats were downplaying COVID and telling everyone to live their lives normally as recently as March.
    -Democrats spent the first months of this pandemic diverting all the federal resources they could to impeachment.
    -Democrats wasted critical time and resources blocking emergency relief to stuff the bill with taxpayer-funded power grabs and handouts for their donors.
    -Democrats are lying to make the most prepared country on the planet look unprepared.

    5)There are plenty of indications that not filling swamp vacancies DIDN'T impede any part of the CDC's response.

    January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus

    January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus

    January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China

    January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles

    January 20: Dr Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus

    January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response

    January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test

    January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus

    January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President

    January 31: The Trump Administration:
    1. Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
    2. Announced Chinese travel restrictions
    3. Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

    January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U.S. airports

    February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government

    February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus

    February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs

    February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington

    February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine

    February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials

    The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government

    February 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus

    February 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections

    February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus

    February 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his Administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India

    February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications

    February 29: The Trump Administration:
    . Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea
    . Barred all travel to Iran
    . Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days

    March 3: The CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.”

    The White House announced President Trump donated his fourth quarter salary to fight the coronavirus!

    March 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of $500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus

    March 4: Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus

    March 6: President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak.

    The bill provides $7.76 billion to federal, state, & local agencies to combat the coronavirus and authorizes an additional $500 million in waivers for Medicare telehealth restrictions

    March 9: President Trump called on Congress to pass a payroll tax cut over coronavirus

    March 10: President Trump and VP Pence met with top health insurance companies and secured a commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing

    What else you got?



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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    And don't forget to type in a huge font size because that means you're so much smarter than the rest of us.
    That's not the point of enlarging the font. It gets completely crowded out by images unless you adjust it. That's why you'll notice it's never enlarged unless I'm using images. What's it like being wrong with literally every assertion you make?



    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Wrong. Pathogens that kill quickly and thoroughly burn themselves out far faster than pathogens like the coronavirus and influenza families. Therefore, although deadly to those unfortunate enough to find themselves at ground zero of an outbreak, there is less risk of a pandemic. Here, learn something:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...sars-ebola-flu
    Ebola killing quickly does not contradict any part of my point and actually makes it even STRONGER. It should've been even EASIER for Obama to contain it and he failed...while President Trump couldn't possibly have contained something as hyper-contagious as COVID.

    Way to think it through, dumb-ass.

    And what's needed isn't more reading of sources that openly admit to only targeting conservatives (and an opinion piece on top of that, which Democrats always crucify as automatically disqualifying until it suits their needs), but more ability to think about what you read...your Achilles Heel.



    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Correct on the R-naught factor of COVID vs Ebola. Incorrect comparison with influenza. See link, above.
    1) From your own source: "The Covid-19 death rates are much closer to those of the flu." <<< Just like I've been saying, and getting crucified for by Democrat fear-mongers who can't defend their alarmist hysteria.

    2) Your source shows COVID to be EVEN MORE contagious than the flu, hence President Trump has EVEN LESS chance of containing it.

    Holy crap you're dumb as a rock. You comprehending how embarrassingly moronic your little meme is yet?



    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    And now I'm done pretending you're intelligent and have an ability to learn.
    Says the person destroying all their own talking points with links and arguments they're literally too stupid to realize prove them wrong instead of helping them.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Oh, and remember that #COVID-45 did say this:

    Re-posting the meme accomplishes what, exactly?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post


    Boy you just unthinkingly gobble down ALL the Kool-Aid, huh?

    Perhaps if you weren't so busy getting your news from unhinged ultra-partisans like American Independent (even the wildly biased mediabiasfactcheck admits they're on the lunatic fringe), you might realize all the gaping holes in this fallacy-riddled talking point.



    Attachment 14783

    Let's review:

    1) Discrediting scandals like these are why the corrupt incompetence of CDC and NIH has not been rewarded with filled vacancies (scandals that occurred under Obama, if you want to blame someone). You don't throw your support behind fundamentally broken institutions.

    2) Democrats weaponized and politicized virtually every part of the government under Obama, many of which have abused their power for partisan gain and ideological bullshit (like the CDC's anti-gun propaganda). Don't maximize the swamp's corrupt, power-abusing sleaze and then whine about President Trump refusing to play along and give your corrupt, incompetent (often openly partisan) swamp hacks a future in government.



    3) Not filling swamp vacancies in no way indicates that the operations of those offices were compromised.

    4)
    -Democrats caused the mask shortage. -Democrats caused the ventilator shortage.
    -Democrats put bureaucratic FDA red tape in the way of responding to this crisis.
    -Democrats opposed the China travel ban that saved thousands of American lives.
    -Democrats attacked President Trump as overreacting in the beginning and demanded that he prioritize the flu instead.
    -Democrats were downplaying COVID and telling everyone to live their lives normally as recently as March.
    -Democrats spent the first months of this pandemic diverting all the federal resources they could to impeachment.
    -Democrats wasted critical time and resources blocking emergency relief to stuff the bill with taxpayer-funded power grabs and handouts for their donors.
    -Democrats are lying to make the most prepared country on the planet look unprepared.

    5)There are plenty of indications that not filling swamp vacancies DIDN'T impede any part of the CDC's response.
    January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus

    January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus

    January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China

    January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles

    January 20: Dr Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus

    January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response

    January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test

    January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus

    January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President

    January 31: The Trump Administration:
    1. Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
    2. Announced Chinese travel restrictions
    3. Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

    January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U.S. airports

    February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government

    February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus

    February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs

    February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington

    February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine

    February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials

    The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government

    February 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus

    February 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections

    February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus

    February 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his Administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India

    February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications

    February 29: The Trump Administration:
    . Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea
    . Barred all travel to Iran
    . Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days

    March 3: The CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.”

    The White House announced President Trump donated his fourth quarter salary to fight the coronavirus!

    March 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of $500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus

    March 4: Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus

    March 6: President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak.

    The bill provides $7.76 billion to federal, state, & local agencies to combat the coronavirus and authorizes an additional $500 million in waivers for Medicare telehealth restrictions

    March 9: President Trump called on Congress to pass a payroll tax cut over coronavirus

    March 10: President Trump and VP Pence met with top health insurance companies and secured a commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing

    What else you got?



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    I wish I lived in a world where 11 cases and one death from an exotic disease is a "failure" but 190,000* cases and 4,000+* deaths is "winning."

    There's more pretzel logic in this thread than pretzels in Bavaria.



    * https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    YES or NO .. WHO is IN-CHARGE NOW, this Second? Not yesterday, not last month, last year

    Democrats or Republicans ... take your time, I know it's a difficult reality for you, So Chew slowly before Swallowing.
    Why? Does Republicans being in charge somehow excuse all the ways Democrats created this crisis?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I wish I lived in a world where 11 cases and one death from an exotic disease is a "failure" but 190,000* cases and 4,000+* deaths is "winning."

    There's more pretzel logic in this thread than pretzels in Bavaria.



    * https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
    I wish you did too. It would mean you could finally comprehend lethality and contagiousness differences.


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