Earl (04-01-2020)
I posted on this board less than a week ago that I hoped Navy ships Docs and facilities had PLENTY of tests to use on sailors on ships and SUBS. Oh well, I guess all of them could get sleeping bags sleep spaced 6 feet apart on the deck under the stars. Hold their breaths when then had to go below to do their work. That'll work.
This isn't from CNN or even RawStory but from the HILL, using words like "stricken"...
Aircraft carrier captain pleads for help with coronavirus outbreak
BY REBECCA KHEEL - 03/31/20 12:11 PM EDT 711
The captain of a U.S. aircraft carrier stricken by the coronavirus is pleading with Navy officials for help to stem the spread of the disease aboard the ship, which is now docked in Guam.
In a memo obtained and published Tuesday by the San Francisco Chronicle, Capt. Brett Crozier, commanding officer of the USS Theodore Roosevelt, warned of dire consequences if the majority of the crew is not taken off the ship and isolated.
“This will require a political solution, but it is the right thing to do,” Crozier wrote about finding individualized lodging for crew members.
“We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly
take care of our most trusted asset — our sailors.”
Asked by The Hill for comment on the memo, a Navy official said in a statement that Crozier “alerted leadership in the Pacific Fleet on Sunday evening of continuing challenges in isolating the virus.”
“The ship’s commanding officer advocated for housing more members of the crew in facilities that allow for better isolation,” the statement said. “Navy leadership is moving quickly to take all necessary measures to ensure the health and safety of the crew of USS Theodore Roosevelt, and is pursuing options to address the concerns raised by the commanding officer.”
In an interview with CNN on Tuesday, acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly said he heard about Crozier's letter that morning, with Navy commanders "aware of this for about 24 hours." Modly said the Navy is working to move sailors off the ship.
"The problem is that Guam doesn’t have enough beds right now, and so we're having to talk to the government there to see if we can get some hotel space, create some tent-type facilities there,” Modly said.
"But we don’t disagree with the [commanding officer] on that ship, and we’re doing it in a very methodical way because it’s not the same as a cruise ship," he continued. "I mean, that ship has armaments on it. It has aircraft on it. We have to be able to fight fires if there are fires on board the ship. We have to run a nuclear power plant."
The Navy first confirmed positive coronavirus cases aboard the Roosevelt a week ago, and on Thursday, officials announced the ship would dock in Guam while all 4,000-plus people aboard are tested for COVID-19.
A senior officer on board the ship told the Chronicle that 150 to 200 sailors had tested positive as of Monday.
The carrier was last in port in mid-March in Danang, Vietnam. At the time, Vietnam had 16 confirmed cases of COVID-19.
Officials have previously said the coronavirus aboard the Roosevelt may not necessarily be tied to the port visit since aircraft regularly land on the ship, bringing in new people from outside the command.
In his memo, Crozier warned that if the Navy focuses on being ready for a war over stopping the spread of the virus, “there will be losses.”
Alternatively, he wrote, the Navy could work to “achieve a COVID-free TR.” That would require “strict adherence” to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines and a “methodical approach” to cleaning the ship, steps that demand “immediate and decisive action” and will take “time and money,” he added...
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4...virus-outbreak
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
Earl (04-01-2020)
I was reading about this on the Johns Hopkins site. Those men and women must be terrified. Imagine sending them into harms way and leaving them there. Shame.
"US AIRCRAFT CARRIER OUTBREAK An ongoing outbreak onboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt aircraft carrier could potentially put thousands of US Sailors and Marines at risk for COVID-19. Several identified cases have been evacuated from the ship, but the majority of the more than 100 cases onboard remain. The ship’s Commanding Officer, Captain Brett Crozier, reportedly issued a plea for support from the Department of Defense, including quarantine facilities for the crew. Due to the nature of living conditions and operations onboard an aircraft carrier, it is impossible to effectively quarantine or isolate Sailors and Marines. These conditions are ideal for rapid transmission, and according to the letter, the outbreak is “accelerating.” The ship is currently in port in Guam, but most of the crew remains onboard due to a lack of suitable quarantine space on the base. Disembarking the entire crew would essentially remove the ship from service. Only 11 aircraft carriers are in active service—and only a few are currently deployed—so the loss of one, even temporarily, could have significant impacts on US Navy operations.
"Another outbreak at the US Marines’ training center in Parris Island, South Carolina, has reportedly resulted in at least 20 cases. The outbreak has delayed the arrival of new recruits for training, and base officials are determining the appropriate response to contain the outbreak. Prior to the outbreak, new recruits were required to be quarantined for 14 days upon arrival to reduce the risk of such outbreaks. The initial cases were reportedly identified during the recruits’ quarantine period."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...h-15167883.php
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
The ship is docked in Guam, why don't we have a half dozen c-130's on their way there to set up a field hospital and get the infected crew off the damn boat right there? It's a long trip back to Sandiego and 90% will be infected by then.
Phantasmal (03-31-2020)
Do you think Trump cares ... really?
ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch
cancel2 2022 (04-01-2020), Earl (04-01-2020)
cancel2 2022 (04-01-2020)
...and mess deck. Life aboard ship is tight. They'll all need to be quarantined and the ship is a good place for them. However, it effectively removes a United States aircraft carrier from service.
It's probably best to keep everyone aboard until testing can be done on everyone. They'll need medical support. Aircraft can be moved off ship and the crews quarantined ashore while the hangar deck is converted into a hospital.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Last edited by Centerleftfl; 04-01-2020 at 03:39 AM.
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
Earl (04-01-2020)
I worked for Amtrak in my youth. We had something called a ROOMETTE (single sleeper or 2 REALLY friendly people). Sailors have less space. It will take some logistics. They sure as hell can't turn them loose in Guam. I wonder if GUAM has one of the larger Naval hospitals? That would go a long way to help organize it. In the meantime, that is a carrier OUT OF COMMISSION.
WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same
The OP has been whining and will continue to whine no matter what happens in an attempt to not allow any crisis to go to waste.
The OP has been whining and will continue to whine no matter what happens in an attempt to not allow any crisis to go to waste.
The president did not cause the Chinese virus to happen. The Chinese failed to control their virus and then lied about its origin.
Get off the wagon and help push it...for a change.
moon (04-01-2020)
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