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    America claims to be a smart nation, why then are so many so dumb today when it comes to quackery? First a radio host, next twelve nuts, and finally one wacko with nonsense and vitamins. Lord help those fools who follow nonsense. Our new prayer for America.

    "A conservative radio host in Tennessee who urged listeners not to get vaccinated against Covid-19 has changed track and called on listeners to get the shot, after contracting the virus and ending up in hospital in “very serious condition”."

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ospital-vaxman

    "More than 97 percent of people hospitalized for Covid-19 are unvaccinated, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

    'The Disinformation Dozen' 'Why platforms must act on twelve leading online anti-vaxxers'

    "Just twelve anti-vaxxers are responsible for almost two-thirds of anti-vaccine content circulating on social media platforms."

    https://www.counterhate.com/disinformationdozen

    'WARNING LETTER RE: Unapproved and Misbranded Products Related to Coronavirus Disease 2019'

    https://www.fda.gov/inspections-comp...07133-02182021
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    "Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions."

    Bump. Talk at bottom covers topic well for the interested reader. Book is well done and covers many of these diseases.

    'Diseases You Almost Forgot About (Thanks to Vaccines)'

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents...-diseases.html

    'Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs' by Michael T. Osterholm, Mark Olshaker

    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sh...eadliest-enemy

    'Virus hunter Nathan Wolfe is outwitting the next pandemic...'

    https://www.ted.com/talks/nathan_wol...ch_for_viruses
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    Hello midcan5,

    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    "Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions."

    Bump. Talk at bottom covers topic well for the interested reader. Book is well done and covers many of these diseases.

    'Diseases You Almost Forgot About (Thanks to Vaccines)'

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents...-diseases.html

    'Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs' by Michael T. Osterholm, Mark Olshaker

    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sh...eadliest-enemy

    'Virus hunter Nathan Wolfe is outwitting the next pandemic...'

    https://www.ted.com/talks/nathan_wol...ch_for_viruses
    Anti-vax people owe a lifetime debt of gratitude to those who get properly vaccinated, because without vaccinations these diseases would be out of control, causing rampant misery and death.

    To forsake vaccinations is the utmost in irresponsibility.
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    'Texas man strips at meeting to make point on masks'


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    'An American tragedy: US COVID death toll tops 700,000'



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    Merck says experimental COVID-19 pill cut deaths, hospitalizations in half when given early

    October 1, 2021 / 7:00 AM / CBS/AP

    "Washington — Merck & Co. said Friday that its experimental COVID-19 pill reduced hospitalizations and deaths by half in people recently infected with the coronavirus and that it would soon ask health officials in the U.S. and around the world to authorize its use.

    If cleared, Merck's drug would be the first pill shown to treat COVID-19 — a potentially major advance in efforts to fight the pandemic. All COVID-19 therapies now authorized in the U.S. require an IV or injection.

    Merck and its partner, Ridgeback Biotherapeutics, said early results showed patients who received the drug, called molnupiravir, within five days of COVID-19 symptoms had about half the rate of hospitalization and deaths as patients who received a dummy pill. The study tracked 775 adults with mild-to-moderate COVID-19 who were considered at higher risk for severe disease due to health problems such as obesity, diabetes or heart disease.

    Among patients taking molnupiravir, 7.3% were either hospitalized or died at the end of 30 days, compared with 14.1% of those getting the dummy pill. There were no deaths in the drug group after that time period compared with eight deaths in the placebo group, according to Merck.

    The results were released by the company and have not been peer reviewed. Merck said it plans to present them at a future medical meeting.

    The Wall Street Journal says a government green light could mean people could take molnupiravir at home to try prevent hospitalization, adding that it's "on track to potentially be authorized by the end of the year." "
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    "The only thing of which we can be certain is our own existence — I think therefore I am."

    'How to tell the difference between scientific and conspiratorial skepticism.'

    "In several nations, conspiratorial doubt has resulted in consistently low levels of vaccination, fueling the recent emergence of the delta variant."

    https://nautil.us/issue/104/harmony/...lk-about-doubt
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello midcan5,



    Anti-vax people owe a lifetime debt of gratitude to those who get properly vaccinated, because without vaccinations these diseases would be out of control, causing rampant misery and death.

    To forsake vaccinations is the utmost in irresponsibility.
    its a virus like the flu, the flu did not go away

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
    its a virus like the flu, the flu did not go away
    The flu mutates just as Covid has, but for those of us old enough to remember polio, vaccines are a miracle. For the reader who wants to know, read book linked below. Neither my wife nor I have ever had the flu, we do not get the flu vaccine. But this virus is different. Book covers flu too and lots of other viruses. Read it if you want to know.

    'Diseases You Almost Forgot About (Thanks to Vaccines)'

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents...-diseases.html


    "Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions."

    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sh...eadliest-enemy
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    'Republican Idiot Brigade Debuts Dumbest COVID Claims Yet' 'Marjorie Taylor Greene, for one, has suggested cancer is as transmissible as COVID, while Matt Gaetz wants people to actively contract the virus.'

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021...tz-ron-johnson

    https://www.businessinsider.com/marj...cancer-2021-12


    "State Senator Doug Ericksen, a Republican who had led opposition to Washington State’s Covid-19 emergency orders and vaccine mandates, has died after he said he tested positive for the coronavirus after traveling to El Salvador. He was 52." Source NYT


    Economy impact.

    "The strength in economic output was, in part, a result of the enormous legislative response to both the pandemic and to the human hardship it caused."

    "Despite the headwinds created by the Delta COVID-19 variant, the economy is recovering. Economic growth during the pandemic has generally surpassed consensus expectations while households and businesses have maintained a surprising amount of activity and spending while social distancing."

    https://www.brookings.edu/research/1...d-19-pandemic/
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    ''I Had Never Felt Worse’: Long Covid Sufferers Are Struggling With Exercise' And experts have some theories as to why.

    'New Research Hints at 4 Factors That May Increase Chances of Long Covid'

    https://www.healio.com/news/infectio...ate-long-covid

    'If further study confirms the findings, they could lead to ways to prevent and treat the complex condition.'

    https://www.healthaffairs.org/covid-...avirus-disease

    "COVID-19 symptoms can sometimes persist for months. The virus can damage the lungs, heart and brain, which increases the risk of long-term health problems."

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/art-20490351
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    ''I Had Never Felt Worse’: Long Covid Sufferers Are Struggling With Exercise' And experts have some theories as to why.

    'New Research Hints at 4 Factors That May Increase Chances of Long Covid'

    https://www.healio.com/news/infectio...ate-long-covid

    'If further study confirms the findings, they could lead to ways to prevent and treat the complex condition.'

    https://www.healthaffairs.org/covid-...avirus-disease

    "COVID-19 symptoms can sometimes persist for months. The virus can damage the lungs, heart and brain, which increases the risk of long-term health problems."

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/art-20490351
    We're two years into a global pandemic. Almost six million are dead. Anyone who doesn't understand this pandemic has lethal consequences is obviously incapable of understanding the problem.

    The situation reminds me of the Preacher and the Flood joke:
     
    A storm descends on a small town, and the downpour soon turns into a flood. As the waters rise, the local preacher kneels in prayer on the church porch, surrounded by water. By and by, one of the townsfolk comes up the street in a canoe.

    "Better get in, Preacher. The waters are rising fast."

    "No," says the preacher. "I have faith in the Lord. He will save me."

    Still the waters rise. Now the preacher is up on the balcony, wringing his hands in supplication, when another guy zips up in a motorboat.

    "Come on, Preacher. We need to get you out of here. The levee's gonna break any minute."

    Once again, the preacher is unmoved. "I shall remain. The Lord will see me through."

    After a while the levee breaks, and the flood rushes over the church until only the steeple remains above water. The preacher is up there, clinging to the cross, when a helicopter descends out of the clouds, and a state trooper calls down to him through a megaphone.

    "Grab the ladder, Preacher. This is your last chance."

    Once again, the preacher insists the Lord will deliver him.

    And, predictably, he drowns.

    A pious man, the preacher goes to heaven. After a while he gets an interview with God, and he asks the Almighty, "Lord, I had unwavering faith in you. Why didn't you deliver me from that flood?"

    God shakes his head. "What did you want from me? I sent you two boats and a helicopter."


    There was the initial wave of COVID then there was the Delta wave then the Omicron wave. Except to medical experts, the first wave was a large unknown. There was also no vaccine. As subsequent waves hit, the deaths increased, but primarily among the unvaccinated. The spike in deaths from both Delta and Omicron largely killed those who do not accept science, lean toward conspiracy theory and Facebook home remedies and mostly vote Republican if we use JPP as an example of the antivax mindset.

    This is from the great red state of Texas under Governor Abbott: https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/...on-status.aspx

    It points out that unvaccinated Texans died 45X more often than vaccinated Texans and 105X more often than vaccinated/boosted Texans like me.

    Anyone who can't comprehend these facts and take the appropriate action to protect themselves and their families is seeking to win a Darwin Award.
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    Hello Dutch,

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    We're two years into a global pandemic. Almost six million are dead. Anyone who doesn't understand this pandemic has lethal consequences is obviously incapable of understanding the problem.

    The situation reminds me of the Preacher and the Flood joke:
     
    A storm descends on a small town, and the downpour soon turns into a flood. As the waters rise, the local preacher kneels in prayer on the church porch, surrounded by water. By and by, one of the townsfolk comes up the street in a canoe.

    "Better get in, Preacher. The waters are rising fast."

    "No," says the preacher. "I have faith in the Lord. He will save me."

    Still the waters rise. Now the preacher is up on the balcony, wringing his hands in supplication, when another guy zips up in a motorboat.

    "Come on, Preacher. We need to get you out of here. The levee's gonna break any minute."

    Once again, the preacher is unmoved. "I shall remain. The Lord will see me through."

    After a while the levee breaks, and the flood rushes over the church until only the steeple remains above water. The preacher is up there, clinging to the cross, when a helicopter descends out of the clouds, and a state trooper calls down to him through a megaphone.

    "Grab the ladder, Preacher. This is your last chance."

    Once again, the preacher insists the Lord will deliver him.

    And, predictably, he drowns.

    A pious man, the preacher goes to heaven. After a while he gets an interview with God, and he asks the Almighty, "Lord, I had unwavering faith in you. Why didn't you deliver me from that flood?"

    God shakes his head. "What did you want from me? I sent you two boats and a helicopter."


    There was the initial wave of COVID then there was the Delta wave then the Omicron wave. Except to medical experts, the first wave was a large unknown. There was also no vaccine. As subsequent waves hit, the deaths increased, but primarily among the unvaccinated. The spike in deaths from both Delta and Omicron largely killed those who do not accept science, lean toward conspiracy theory and Facebook home remedies and mostly vote Republican if we use JPP as an example of the antivax mindset.

    This is from the great red state of Texas under Governor Abbott: https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/...on-status.aspx

    It points out that unvaccinated Texans died 45X more often than vaccinated Texans and 105X more often than vaccinated/boosted Texans like me.

    Anyone who can't comprehend these facts and take the appropriate action to protect themselves and their families is seeking to win a Darwin Award.
    I've always loved that joke.

    And it is so sadly appropriate.

    How many times do people need to see and hear the stories of unvaccinated who just before they died of coronavirus said they wished they had gotten vaccinated, before the hold-outs 'get it?'

    Some never will, but there are so many who have simply made a terribly wrong decision based on completely unreliable misinformation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Dutch,



    I've always loved that joke.

    And it is so sadly appropriate.

    How many times do people need to see and hear the stories of unvaccinated who just before they died of coronavirus said they wished they had gotten vaccinated before the hold-outs get it?

    Some never will, but there are so many who have simply made a terribly wrong decision based on completely unreliable misinformation.
    It's just evidence of the IQ and Educational bell curves in our nation. They are dying over politics, not science. The reason, IMHO, is that they are poorly educated and susceptible to snake oil salesmen due to their lack of education and/or because they are on the backside of the IQ Bell Curve.

    It's not rocket science to understand that all of our leaders are vaxxed. The military mandates vaxxing. Why would a sane, educated person believe that the pandemic or the vaccine is a hoax? IMO, they wouldn't. Only idiots and the mentally ill would believe such silliness.
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