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    Default The Disinformation Campaign Being Launched Against Biden

    There is no data to support the allegation that he is in cognitive decline.

    During a town hall on Fox News Thursday night, Trump once again alluded to the idea that Biden is unfit for office. While the lies about the Bidens and Burisma will likely continue, the Daily Caller reports that this new line of attack will be a focus for Republicans and the Trump campaign.

    All of this feels very familiar. During the 2016 election, both Trump and the Sanders camp attempted to paint Hillary Clinton as corrupt. Now, both sides have teamed up on an attack against Biden.

    We’ve all watched Biden stumble with words during debates and extemporaneous speeches. So as people committed to examining facts and evidence, it is important to gather what we know about this particular attack and not simply dismiss it because of the sources from which it is emanating.

    In the January/February issue of The Atlantic, John Hendrickson writes that “[Biden’s] verbal stumbles have voters worried about his mental fitness. Maybe they’d be more understanding if they knew he’s still fighting a stutter.”

    A stutter does not get worse as a person ages, but trying to keep it at bay can take immense physical and mental energy. Biden talks all day to audiences both small and large. In addition to periodically stuttering or blocking on certain sounds, he appears to intentionally not stutter by switching to an alternative word—a technique called “circumlocution”—*which can yield mangled syntax. I’ve been following practically everything he’s said for months now, and sometimes what is quickly characterized as a memory lapse is indeed a stutter. As Eric Jackson, the speech pathologist, pointed out to me, during a town hall in August Biden briefly blocked on Obama, before quickly subbing in my boss. The headlines after the event? “Biden Forgets Obama’s Name.” Other times when Biden fudges a detail or loses his train of thought, it seems unrelated to stuttering, like he’s just making a mistake. The kind of mistake other candidates make too, though less frequently than he does.

    Biden “digresses and gets tangential, that’s not cognitive decline,” Lynne Meyer, a California psychologist told Yahoo News. “Trump’s cognitive decline or problems are that he doesn’t even seem to have comprehension of reality. That’s what it looks like.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    There is no data to support the allegation that he is in cognitive decline.

    During a town hall on Fox News Thursday night, Trump once again alluded to the idea that Biden is unfit for office. While the lies about the Bidens and Burisma will likely continue, the Daily Caller reports that this new line of attack will be a focus for Republicans and the Trump campaign.

    All of this feels very familiar. During the 2016 election, both Trump and the Sanders camp attempted to paint Hillary Clinton as corrupt. Now, both sides have teamed up on an attack against Biden.

    We’ve all watched Biden stumble with words during debates and extemporaneous speeches. So as people committed to examining facts and evidence, it is important to gather what we know about this particular attack and not simply dismiss it because of the sources from which it is emanating.

    In the January/February issue of The Atlantic, John Hendrickson writes that “[Biden’s] verbal stumbles have voters worried about his mental fitness. Maybe they’d be more understanding if they knew he’s still fighting a stutter.”

    A stutter does not get worse as a person ages, but trying to keep it at bay can take immense physical and mental energy. Biden talks all day to audiences both small and large. In addition to periodically stuttering or blocking on certain sounds, he appears to intentionally not stutter by switching to an alternative word—a technique called “circumlocution”—*which can yield mangled syntax. I’ve been following practically everything he’s said for months now, and sometimes what is quickly characterized as a memory lapse is indeed a stutter. As Eric Jackson, the speech pathologist, pointed out to me, during a town hall in August Biden briefly blocked on Obama, before quickly subbing in my boss. The headlines after the event? “Biden Forgets Obama’s Name.” Other times when Biden fudges a detail or loses his train of thought, it seems unrelated to stuttering, like he’s just making a mistake. The kind of mistake other candidates make too, though less frequently than he does.

    Biden “digresses and gets tangential, that’s not cognitive decline,” Lynne Meyer, a California psychologist told Yahoo News. “Trump’s cognitive decline or problems are that he doesn’t even seem to have comprehension of reality. That’s what it looks like.”
    Teabaggers have claimed for a decade that Joe Biden is a mentally deficient dim wit

    Rightwingers claimed Biden was a bumbling barely articulate dim wit, right before Joe sliced and diced the supposed intellectual policy-wonk Paul Ryan in the VP debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Teabaggers have claimed for a decade that Joe Biden is a mentally deficient dim wit

    Rightwingers claimed Biden was a bumbling barely articulate dim wit, right before Joe sliced and diced the supposed intellectual policy-wonk Paul Ryan in the VP debate
    I knew Biden stuttered as a kid but didn't know that it could last this long and still be hard to control. The article makes a lot of sense and the example about "Biden Forgets Obama's Name" perfectly describes how RWNJs attack without knowing all the facts.

    I recognize they'd probably attack him even knowing the facts.


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    I dont care WHY he stutters.
    I care a bit more about his rage at voters asking legit questions,because I think he's on Adderall/

    I've noticed he's stuttering much less ( an indication of drug therapy) -but his rage has broken thru

    At times he just goes blanks or incomprehensable

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I knew Biden stuttered as a kid but didn't know that it could last this long and still be hard to control. The article makes a lot of sense and the example about "Biden Forgets Obama's Name" perfectly describes how RWNJs attack without knowing all the facts.

    I recognize they'd probably attack him even knowing the facts.
    I am not worried in the least about Biden debating Dump.

    I am concerned actually that Trump will attempt to chicken out from debating Biden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I am not worried in the least about Biden debating Dump.

    I am concerned actually that Trump will attempt to chicken out from debating Biden
    I would bet money that trump won't debate. He'll make up some excuse like "I don't have to, my record speaks for itself."


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I would bet money that trump won't debate. He'll make up some excuse like "I don't have to, my record speaks for itself."
    bad call. don't fall for that. when did Trump ever back down from a fight?

    Politically it would be suicide as well - I have no idea where Cypress gets this noise -but it's just that

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I would bet money that trump won't debate. He'll make up some excuse like "I don't have to, my record speaks for itself."
    I think Trump might try to chicken out too against the supposedly senile Biden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Teabaggers have claimed for a decade that Joe Biden is a mentally deficient dim wit

    Rightwingers claimed Biden was a bumbling barely articulate dim wit, right before Joe sliced and diced the supposed intellectual policy-wonk Paul Ryan in the VP debate
    Biden was a different man back then. I supported him in '08 ( before I got whiff of his nation building zeal) but no way would i ever consider supporting him now -even without Trump as an opponent

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    bad call. don't fall for that. when did Trump ever back down from a fight?

    Politically it would be suicide as well - I have no idea where Cypress gets this noise -but it's just that
    'Trump considering skipping general election debates in 2020"
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...-in-2020%3famp




    Trump might change his mind" but the fact that he even considers chickening out of presidential debates speaks to his lack of confidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Biden was a different man back then. I supported him in '08 ( before I got whiff of his nation building zeal) but no way would i ever consider supporting him now -even without Trump as an opponent
    You all claimed Biden was mentally deficient in 2012 and that Boy Ryan would wipe the floor with the bumbling Biden.

    If you were ass backwards wrong then, why should I put weight on your opinion this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You all claimed Biden was mentally deficient in 2012 and that Boy Ryan would wipe the floor with the bumbling Biden.

    If you were ass backwards wrong then, why should I put weight on your opinion this time?
    I remember how nice Biden was to that idiot Sarah Palin in their debate, where she didn't know squat about anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I think Trump might try to chicken out too against the supposedly senile Biden
    The Sword of Damocles is hanging over you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You all claimed Biden was mentally deficient in 2012 and that Boy Ryan would wipe the floor with the bumbling Biden.

    If you were ass backwards wrong then, why should I put weight on your opinion this time?
    What does Joanie have to say about it?

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