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    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ml?jwsource=cl

    The lady is basically saying the models that predicted millions of Coronavirus deaths are junk because they don’t/didn’t/can’t account for the unknown asymptomatic individuals in the population. Basically, because without that data you can only make guesses at the mortality rate and without a mortality rate you can’t arrive at a mortality estimate. Much less, a big scary one.

    Now wait a damn minute.

    Did this suddenly dawn on her and Fauci? I’m not even an epidemiologist and I figured it out on my own. Lots of people did because you don’t need to be an epidemiologist to figure it out. A mortality rate is nothing more than a solution to a simple equation they teach in junior high math class.

    Want a scary mortality rate? Just plug a smaller number in at the top. Where were these people when the media was talking about 2 million deaths in the US from COVID-19? Why weren’t they shutting such *irresponsible misinformation* down?

    It’s bullshit.
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    Liberals claiming that the facts are wrong because they don't like the source incoming in 3, 2, 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ml?jwsource=cl

    The lady is basically saying the models that predicted millions of Coronavirus deaths are junk because they don’t/didn’t account for the unknown asymptomatic individuals in the population. Basically, because without that data you can only make guesses at the mortality rate and without a mortality rate you can’t arrive at a mortality estimate. Much less, a big scary one.

    Now wait a damn minute.

    Did this suddenly dawn on her and Fauci? I’m not even an epidemiologist and I figured it out on my own. Lots of people did because you don’t need to be an epidemiologist to figure it out. A mortality rate is nothing more than a solution to a simple equation they teach in junior high math class.

    Want a scary mortality rate? Just plug a smaller number in at the top. Where were these people when the media was talking about 2 million deaths in the US from COVID-19? Why weren’t they shutting such *irresponsible misinformation* down?

    It’s bullshit.
    Actually irrelevant

    Americans don't pay attention to models, and those models that show draconian possibilities isn't on their minds, what does concern them is that saw events unwind in China and Italy, they know this virus is now rapidly spreading seemingly unchecked in the USA, that it kills people, people of all age groups, and there is no preventive measures available.

    It isn't scientific models that have Americans anxious, it is the facts they see before them

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    Americans don't pay attention to models
    These Americans did:

    When Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins announced a shelter-in-place order on Dallas County Sunday, he displayed COVID Act Now graphs with predictive outcomes after three months if certain drastic measures are taken. The NBC Dallas affiliate also embedded the COVID Act Now models in their story on the mandate.

    The headline of an NBC Oregon affiliate featured COVID Act Now data, and a headline blaring, “Coronavirus model sees Oregon hospitals overwhelmed by mid-April.” Both The Oregonian and The East Oregonian also published stories featuring the widely shared data predicting a “point of no return.”

    Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer cited COVID Act Now when telling her state they would exceed 7 million cases in Michigan, with 1 million hospitalized and 460,000 deaths if the state did nothing.

    A local CBS report in Georgia featured an Emory University professor urging Gov. Brian Kemp with the same “point of no return” language and COVID Act Now models.

    The models are being shared across social media, news reports, and finding their way into officials’ daily decisions, which is concerning because COVID Act Now’s predictions have already been proven to be wildly wrong.

    COVID Act Now predicted that by March 19 the state of Tennessee could expect 190 hospitalizations of patients with confirmed Wuhan virus. By March 19, they only had 15 patients hospitalized.

    In New York, Covid Act Now claimed nearly 5,400 New Yorkers would’ve been hospitalized by March 19. The actual number of hospitalizations was around 750. The site also claimed nearly 13,000 New York hospitalizations by March 23. The actual number was around 2,500.
    In Georgia, COVID Act Now predicted 688 hospitalizations by March 23. By that date, they had around 800 confirmed cases in the whole state, and fewer than 300 hospitalized.

    COVID Act Now’s models in other states, including Oklahoma and Virginia, were also far off in their predictions. Jordan Schachtel, a national security writer, found that COVID Act Now’s modeling comes from one team based at Imperial College London that is not only highly scrutinized, but has a track record of bad predictions.

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    It is thier job, they have to prepare for the worse, too bad Trump didn't do the same back in January, February, and early March

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Actually irrelevant

    Americans don't pay attention to models, and those models that show draconian possibilities isn't on their minds, what does concern them is that saw events unwind in China and Italy, they know this virus is now rapidly spreading seemingly unchecked in the USA, that it kills people, people of all age groups, and there is no preventive measures available.

    It isn't scientific models that have Americans anxious, it is the facts they see before them
    What a load of leftist spin and hyperbolic bullshit. Spreading unchecked? Are you fucking serious right now?

    People may not pay close attention to modeling, but they sure as hell pay attention to dire predictions from the mainstream media. Where did the mainstream media get these dire predictions? Nice try asshole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It is thier job, they have to prepare for the worse, too bad Trump didn't do the same back in January, February, and early March
    Actually he did, liar. And you people called him a racist xenophobe for it. You idiots have no shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Actually he did, liar. And you people called him a racist xenophobe for it. You idiots have no shame.
    DEMOCRATS are incapable of shame. Is it their conditioning, or were they born that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    It is thier job, they have to prepare for the worse, too bad Trump didn't do the same back in January, February, and early March
    So when I caught you lying, you lied some more.

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    Are you talking about the denominator or the numerator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    What a load of leftist spin and hyperbolic bullshit. Spreading unchecked? Are you fucking serious right now?

    People may not pay close attention to modeling, but they sure as hell pay attention to dire predictions from the mainstream media. Where did the mainstream media get these dire predictions? Nice try asshole.
    Can you name an area where the inflected rate was shrunk considerably? Are not the numbers rising rapidly by the day? Is there any area of the US where it hasn't spread? Tell is now, where has it been checked

    People pay close attention to the facts, they've seen the images from China and Italy, and they can see the rising numbers in the US in a little over two months. That ain't the media lying, those are the facts, even some of your favorite demogoues have had to admit the truth


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It is thier job, they have to prepare for the worse, too bad Trump didn't do the same back in January, February, and early March
    He stopped flights from China, Arsecheese. You're lower than a snake's arsehole!

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It is thier job, they have to prepare for the worse, too bad Trump didn't do the same back in January, February, and early March
    The bit with the models predicting 2 million US deaths ‘just an oopsie’?
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Actually he did, liar. And you people called him a racist xenophobe for it. You idiots have no shame.
    Not so, until mid March, Trump was telling Americans they "have it totally under control," that "it's going to be fine," "we have a very little problem in this country," "we have it very much in control in this country"

    And we all know about the testing debacle, not to mention medical supplies, it's a sure sign of weak leadership when professional sports show the country which direction they should take

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