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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The lady in the video said NYC has a 1,000 extra vents.
    Fredo must have hidden them for political purposes, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Fredo must have hidden them for political purposes, lol.
    I don’t know if they have them or not—it’s just what she said lol.

    WV is going to have extra vents if things don’t change soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I don’t know if they have them or not—it’s just what she said lol.

    WV is going to have extra vents if things don’t change soon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Actually irrelevant

    Americans don't pay attention to models, and those models that show draconian possibilities isn't on their minds, what does concern them is that saw events unwind in China and Italy, they know this virus is now rapidly spreading seemingly unchecked in the USA, that it kills people, people of all age groups, and there is no preventive measures available.

    It isn't scientific models that have Americans anxious, it is the facts they see before them
    Excellent point. It's also impossible to have any kind of realistic model without data, which data isn't available without testing for infection.

    If it were up to some RWers, we would not be testing unless someone is admitted to hospital, and we wouldn't let the media report on COVID either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    How many funerals are there per year in the US?

    2.4 million funerals

    The U.S funeral market is currently estimated

    to be worth around $20 billion annually,

    with 2.4 million funerals taking place each year.

    Due to the increase in the U.S. senior population in coming years,

    this death rate is set to rise.Jul 18, 2014


    ERGO:

    2.4 million funerals taking place each year =
    6575 deaths per DAY in the USA =
    197260 deaths per MONTH in the USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Sounds a bit like a highly contagious but weakly virulent bug lol.

    About 20% of common colds are caused by Coronavirus [same family as COVID-19]. In fact, COVID-19 seeds first in the nasopharyngeal area just like it’s less famous cousin. It’s why they do the swab test for it. The problem with COVID-19 is it has a propensity to travel to the lungs.

    Since it’s in the same virus family as the Cold Virus, there’s good reason to hope COVID-19 is as susceptible to sun and heat as the Cold Virus is.

    People still catch colds in the summer but the numbers drop precipitously.
    How dare you post facts, lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Two weeks after the virus arrived here from China
    And that stopped tens of thousands of Chinese people would come to the US many of them spreading the virus in different locals. Trump was blasted by the left as raciest and xenophobic for the Chinese ban but it bought time and undoubtedly saved lives.
    Last edited by ExpressLane; 03-27-2020 at 12:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The lady in the video said NYC has a 1,000 extra vents.
    They aren't evenly distributed to places that need them. If you need a vent you need it now not tomorrow.

    Do I think we will have 2 million funerals ...no. But if we had done nothing we could have had 100's of thousands of death though. During the Spanish flu we had over 600K deaths. We only had 105 million population. We did not have as good of a medical system then though. So if do nothing a we OVERWHELM our medical system a and we have similar results we could have 1.5 to 2 million deaths. I think as long as we slow the pandemic down and don't OVERWHELM our medical system we will have fewer deaths. At this point I think the health care system in NY is in danger of breaking. They need PPE badly and vents badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    New York is a DEMOCRAT shithole and Italy had open borders (until it was too late) has universal healthcare, which DEMOCRATS want to force on the USA.
    I agree that we should have closed our borders earlier. There is video of the NYC Health Commissioner encouraging people to go to the Chinese New Year Festival in February after the Chinese virus had become known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    They aren't evenly distributed to places that need them. If you need a vent you need it now not tomorrow.

    Do I think we will have 2 million funerals ...no. But if we had done nothing we could have had 100's of thousands of death though. During the Spanish flu we had over 600K deaths. We only had 105 million population. We did not have as good of a medical system then though. So if do nothing a we OVERWHELM our medical system a and we have similar results we could have 1.5 to 2 million deaths. I think as long as we slow the pandemic down and don't OVERWHELM our medical system we will have fewer deaths. At this point I think the health care system in NY is in danger of breaking. They need PPE badly and vents badly.
    Well, the doctor Birx lady said the scary estimates aren’t holding up to ‘the facts on the ground’ and they were based on spurious data. She seems to be of the opinion those kinds of numbers never would have been obtained regardless of the circumstances.

    I agree with her.

    But my main gripe is why did she/they not say that *before* we locked the country down, put millions of small businesses at risk [already, some of them will never come back] and etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ml?jwsource=cl

    The lady is basically saying the models that predicted millions of Coronavirus deaths are junk because they don’t/didn’t/can’t account for the unknown asymptomatic individuals in the population. Basically, because without that data you can only make guesses at the mortality rate and without a mortality rate you can’t arrive at a mortality estimate. Much less, a big scary one.

    Now wait a damn minute.

    Did this suddenly dawn on her and Fauci? I’m not even an epidemiologist and I figured it out on my own. Lots of people did because you don’t need to be an epidemiologist to figure it out. A mortality rate is nothing more than a solution to a simple equation they teach in junior high math class.

    Want a scary mortality rate? Just plug a smaller number in at the top. Where were these people when the media was talking about 2 million deaths in the US from COVID-19? Why weren’t they shutting such *irresponsible misinformation* down?

    It’s bullshit.
    Are you Trumperoos still calling the CV a Democratic hoax????????????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Actually irrelevant
    You're actually stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Americans don't pay attention to models, and those models that show draconian possibilities isn't on their minds, what does concern them is that saw events unwind in China and Italy,
    Try English?

    Events in China indicate that after only 80,000 plus cases, the virus has been contained. And this is in a third world Marxist shit hole....if you want to believe their numbers being reported.

    Same thing in Italy.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    ....they know this virus is now rapidly spreading seemingly unchecked in the USA, that it kills people, people of all age groups, and there is no preventive measures available.
    This virus is no more rapidly spreading than the flu. It kills very few people. There most certainly are preventive measures being taken. Why are you such a low IQ liar?

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It isn't scientific models that have Americans anxious, it is the facts they see before them
    The thing that makes American's anxioous are the megaphone the media is giving this disease. It's become 24/7 news with PHONY anecdotes and claims.

    The best thing Americans can do is turn off the news and stop reading the news papers who spread the dogma about this disease in a desperate effort to make Trump look bad for partisan political purposes.

    As far as your willful stupidity; it cannot be fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It is thier job, they have to prepare for the worse, too bad Trump didn't do the same back in January, February, and early March
    There you go lying again. I don't think you can post without lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    What a load of leftist spin and hyperbolic bullshit. Spreading unchecked? Are you fucking serious right now?

    People may not pay close attention to modeling, but they sure as hell pay attention to dire predictions from the mainstream media. Where did the mainstream media get these dire predictions? Nice try asshole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Not so, until mid March, Trump was telling Americans they "have it totally under control," that "it's going to be fine," "we have a very little problem in this country," "we have it very much in control in this country"

    And we all know about the testing debacle, not to mention medical supplies, it's a sure sign of weak leadership when professional sports show the country which direction they should take
    Lying as usual. FACTS:

    On December 31 last year, China alerted WHO to several cases of unusual pneumonia in Wuhan

    January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus

    January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus

    January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, Chinahttps://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191

    First case discovered in the US on January 19th. Arrived on January 15th.

    January 20: Dr Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus

    January 31: The Trump Administration:
    1. Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
    2. Announced Chinese travel restrictions
    3. Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

    February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus

    February 29: The Trump Administration:
    . Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea
    . Barred all travel to Iran
    . Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days

    March 6: President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak.

    WHO declares COVID-19 a pandemic on March 11
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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