Excellent point. It's also impossible to have any kind of realistic model without data, which data isn't available without testing for infection.
If it were up to some RWers, we would not be testing unless someone is admitted to hospital, and we wouldn't let the media report on COVID either.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
domer76 (03-27-2020)
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Stretch (03-27-2020), Truth Detector (03-27-2020)
They aren't evenly distributed to places that need them. If you need a vent you need it now not tomorrow.
Do I think we will have 2 million funerals ...no. But if we had done nothing we could have had 100's of thousands of death though. During the Spanish flu we had over 600K deaths. We only had 105 million population. We did not have as good of a medical system then though. So if do nothing a we OVERWHELM our medical system a and we have similar results we could have 1.5 to 2 million deaths. I think as long as we slow the pandemic down and don't OVERWHELM our medical system we will have fewer deaths. At this point I think the health care system in NY is in danger of breaking. They need PPE badly and vents badly.
Last edited by ExpressLane; 03-27-2020 at 12:25 PM.
Well, the doctor Birx lady said the scary estimates aren’t holding up to ‘the facts on the ground’ and they were based on spurious data. She seems to be of the opinion those kinds of numbers never would have been obtained regardless of the circumstances.
I agree with her.
But my main gripe is why did she/they not say that *before* we locked the country down, put millions of small businesses at risk [already, some of them will never come back] and etc?
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
You're actually stupid.
Try English?
Events in China indicate that after only 80,000 plus cases, the virus has been contained. And this is in a third world Marxist shit hole....if you want to believe their numbers being reported.
Same thing in Italy.
This virus is no more rapidly spreading than the flu. It kills very few people. There most certainly are preventive measures being taken. Why are you such a low IQ liar?
The thing that makes American's anxioous are the megaphone the media is giving this disease. It's become 24/7 news with PHONY anecdotes and claims.
The best thing Americans can do is turn off the news and stop reading the news papers who spread the dogma about this disease in a desperate effort to make Trump look bad for partisan political purposes.
As far as your willful stupidity; it cannot be fixed.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
countryboy (03-27-2020)
Lying as usual. FACTS:
On December 31 last year, China alerted WHO to several cases of unusual pneumonia in Wuhan
January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus
January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus
January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, Chinahttps://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191
First case discovered in the US on January 19th. Arrived on January 15th.
January 20: Dr Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus
January 31: The Trump Administration:
1. Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
2. Announced Chinese travel restrictions
3. Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.
February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus
February 29: The Trump Administration:
. Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea
. Barred all travel to Iran
. Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days
March 6: President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak.
WHO declares COVID-19 a pandemic on March 11
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Stretch (03-27-2020)
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