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    Default Once again, the american people get screwed.....corporations win again.

    This bill isn't for the american people it's for business.

    1,200 for individuals for MOST AMERICANS meaning some will be left out.
    500 billion for corporations
    350 Billion for small business

    why does walmart need aid.....they don't even pay their workers paid sick time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IQ=64 View Post
    This bill isn't for the american people it's for business.

    1,200 for individuals for MOST AMERICANS meaning some will be left out.
    500 billion for corporations
    350 Billion for small business

    why does walmart need aid.....they don't even pay their workers paid sick time.
    Think of the corporations as sugar babies and the Treasury as a sugar daddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Think of the corporations as sugar babies and the Treasury as a sugar daddy.
    All of sudden Lesion makes sense. *checks outside* Whew the sky isn't falling.

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    business gets billions what are they doing with the money if they aren't paying their laid off workers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    why does walmart need aid.....they don't even pay their workers paid sick time.
    See the response below the following response...

    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    business gets billions
    Some do. Many others do not. Also, "billions" (or even "millions" or "hundreds of thousands" for that matter) would be the gross profit, not net profit. Businesses do incur expenses, you know...

    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    what are they doing with the money if they aren't paying their laid off workers?
    [1] Writing out huge checks to insurance companies so that they can offer their employees health/dental/vision insurance.

    [2] Writing out huge checks to insurance companies so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (general liability insurance, auto insurance, etc. etc. etc)

    [3] Writing out huge checks to a lengthy list of vendors so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (for raw materials, products, services, etc.) -- see an extremely small sampling of specific examples for a general business below, as specific businesses will each have their own large expenses that other business wouldn't have:

    [3a] Writing out huge checks to law firms to correspond with lawyers to handle legal issues so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is NOT cheap btw)

    [3b] Writing out huge checks to external accounting outfits to handle various accounting and tax issues so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is not cheap either)

    [3c] Writing out huge checks to various software and website maintenance companies in order to have a website and professional software so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is not cheap either)


    Now, here's a small sampling of what a company that owns and manages numerous properties (student housing, other housing, commercial office/retail/warehouse space, and parking at those locations) will incur expenses for:

    ** Managers to manage all the properties.
    ** Elevator companies to maintain elevators within each building. (This is NOT cheap btw)
    ** Paving companies to maintain paved parking lots and parking stall lines.
    ** Cleaning companies to keep the commercial spaces clean for tenants... and for apartment turnovers (student housing).
    ** Real Estate Taxes and utilities for each property.
    ** HVAC & plumbing companies to keep heat/ac working and to keep drains working.
    ** Call service companies to take tenant calls outside of normal business operation hours.
    ** Office supply companies for various office supplies.
    ** Copiers and the toner for them (and companies that do regular maintenance on those copiers)
    ** Keys for the buildings and mailboxes.
    ** Painting companies to paint when needed.
    ** Appliance repair companies to keep washers/dryers (and etc.) in working order.
    ** Automobiles for the company, and auto repair companies to keep those automobiles in working order.
    ** Lawn care/snow removal companies to maintain the properties and their lots throughout the year.
    ** Garbage disposal companies
    ** Private security companies to patrol parking lots for illegal parkers and to patrol buildings to make sure that they are secure.
    ** Pest control companies to prevent and take care of any pest infestations that may occur at the properties.
    ** Advertising companies that advertise the currently vacant/available properties.
    ** Various brokers (this is NOT AT ALL cheap btw...)


    So yeah, that's a small sampling of what businesses are "doing with the money".


    SOURCE: I am an accountant for a company that owns/manages rental properties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    See the response below the following response...


    Some do. Many others do not. Also, "billions" (or even "millions" or "hundreds of thousands" for that matter) would be the gross profit, not net profit. Businesses do incur expenses, you know...


    [1] Writing out huge checks to insurance companies so that they can offer their employees health/dental/vision insurance.

    [2] Writing out huge checks to insurance companies so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (general liability insurance, auto insurance, etc. etc. etc)

    [3] Writing out huge checks to a lengthy list of vendors so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (for raw materials, products, services, etc.) -- see an extremely small sampling of specific examples for a general business below, as specific businesses will each have their own large expenses that other business wouldn't have:

    [3a] Writing out huge checks to law firms to correspond with lawyers to handle legal issues so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is NOT cheap btw)

    [3b] Writing out huge checks to external accounting outfits to handle various accounting and tax issues so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is not cheap either)

    [3c] Writing out huge checks to various software and website maintenance companies in order to have a website and professional software so that they can even operate as a business to begin with. (This is not cheap either)


    Now, here's a small sampling of what a company that owns and manages numerous properties (student housing, other housing, commercial office/retail/warehouse space, and parking at those locations) will incur expenses for:

    ** Managers to manage all the properties.
    ** Elevator companies to maintain elevators within each building. (This is NOT cheap btw)
    ** Paving companies to maintain paved parking lots and parking stall lines.
    ** Cleaning companies to keep the commercial spaces clean for tenants... and for apartment turnovers (student housing).
    ** Real Estate Taxes and utilities for each property.
    ** HVAC & plumbing companies to keep heat/ac working and to keep drains working.
    ** Call service companies to take tenant calls outside of normal business operation hours.
    ** Office supply companies for various office supplies.
    ** Copiers and the toner for them (and companies that do regular maintenance on those copiers)
    ** Keys for the buildings and mailboxes.
    ** Painting companies to paint when needed.
    ** Appliance repair companies to keep washers/dryers (and etc.) in working order.
    ** Automobiles for the company, and auto repair companies to keep those automobiles in working order.
    ** Lawn care/snow removal companies to maintain the properties and their lots throughout the year.
    ** Garbage disposal companies
    ** Private security companies to patrol parking lots for illegal parkers and to patrol buildings to make sure that they are secure.
    ** Pest control companies to prevent and take care of any pest infestations that may occur at the properties.
    ** Advertising companies that advertise the currently vacant/available properties.
    ** Various brokers (this is NOT AT ALL cheap btw...)


    So yeah, that's a small sampling of what businesses are "doing with the money".


    SOURCE: I am an accountant for a company that owns/manages rental properties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
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    So you're going to ignore an argument simply because it is longer than a sentence or two? You wanted to know what businesses are doing with the money. I gave you a small sampling of what they're doing with it.

    You obviously have no knowledge about the day to day operations of a business, nor all of the work and expenses involved in forming and running a business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    So you're going to ignore an argument simply because it is longer than a sentence or two? You wanted to know what businesses are doing with the money. I gave you a small sampling of what they're doing with it.

    You obviously have no knowledge about the day to day operations of a business, nor all of the work and expenses involved in forming and running a business.
    You neglected to add that corporate America will pay their execs big bonuses, increase their dividends, and buy back their stock in the open market. Then and only then will they complain that they need more of a bailout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    So you're going to ignore an argument simply because it is longer than a sentence or two? You wanted to know what businesses are doing with the money. I gave you a small sampling of what they're doing with it.

    You obviously have no knowledge about the day to day operations of a business, nor all of the work and expenses involved in forming and running a business.
    post that crap to someone else.

    I believe nothing that comes from racist white males NOTHING.

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    I'm not in the least bit surprised, are you?
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I'm not in the least bit surprised, are you?
    No, but what does surprise me is all the white people still willing to support republicans even after seeing how disgusting they are.

    these are republican policies at your service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    No, but what does surprise me is all the white people still willing to support republicans even after seeing how disgusting they are.

    these are republican policies at your service.
    Racism. Why are you so racist?

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    Let me explain this in simple terms:

    Republicans: We want to give all Americans sandwiches.

    Democrats: We also want to give all Americans sandwiches.

    Republicans: We will give corporations ham sandwiches and we will give the American worker poop sandwiches.

    Democrats: Now wait a minute! We can't support this.

    Republicans: The Democrats don't want to give Americans sandwiches now? Why are they playing politics in this time of need?

    Democrats: We need to discuss this legislation further. First, we'll start with the topic of poop sandwiches--

    Republicans: Time is short! We need to pass this legislation now! Why do you want Americans to starve just so you can play politics?! Stop hating America!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    Let me explain this in simple terms:

    Republicans: We want to give all Americans sandwiches.

    Democrats: We also want to give all Americans sandwiches.

    Republicans: We will give corporations ham sandwiches and we will give the American worker poop sandwiches.

    Democrats: Now wait a minute! We can't support this.

    Republicans: The Democrats don't want to give Americans sandwiches now? Why are they playing politics in this time of need?

    Democrats: We need to discuss this legislation further. First, we'll start with the topic of poop sandwiches--

    Republicans: Time is short! We need to pass this legislation now! Why do you want Americans to starve just so you can play politics?! Stop hating America!
    As a former legislative person, there is a lot of truth in what you post. My hardest battles working for the Middle Class were always with the Republicans. Not all, but most.
    Please leave your Trump 2024 signs in your yard. That way, my dog will know where to take a dump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    Let me explain this in simple terms:

    Republicans: We want to give all Americans sandwiches.

    Democrats: We also want to give all Americans sandwiches.

    Republicans: We will give corporations ham sandwiches and we will give the American worker poop sandwiches.

    Democrats: Now wait a minute! We can't support this.

    Republicans: The Democrats don't want to give Americans sandwiches now? Why are they playing politics in this time of need?

    Democrats: We need to discuss this legislation further. First, we'll start with the topic of poop sandwiches--

    Republicans: Time is short! We need to pass this legislation now! Why do you want Americans to starve just so you can play politics?! Stop hating America!
    There is beauty in truth. Well said.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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