A reality check on the corona virus reactions.

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I've heard this conspiracy....release a mild bio-weapon to gain control of the economy, thin the population and control the rest.

Years ago it was to instigate civil war. Whatever.

I'm not saying that it was a bio-weapon or released intentionally. "Never let a crisis go to waste" is my claim.

Yeah, anything is possible … all those previous efforts by the GOP to eliminate all the gains from Roosevelt's New Deal will finally pay off. Of course, all it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.

So, you got anything regarding the OP other than this?

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
By "bad" you mean the rate of infection for those being tested increases daily....as to people being hospitalized and/or dying....low in comparison. Check the OP link.

Sorry, don't follow. Low in comparison to what, and how much do the dying care?

Low in comparison to the fatality rate of previous flu seasons in this time frame. I'm not diminishing death or it's effects of surviving family and friends...I'm pointing to the fact that this virus (while nothing to ignore) is NOT the bubonic plague of the 21st century.

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
No one put the words into Dump's mouth, or orchestrated his circus press conferences...he did that all on his own. His mis-information, contradictions and down right fabrications are DOCUMENTED, not created. Live feed and immediate video play back is a damning thing.

Can you provide evidence of these alleged examples of presidential malfeasance?

You kidding? Here's just one example:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...avirus/608647/

[Taichiliberal]

Although it may be so. We don't know.

That's the problem with stubborn beliefs in conspiracy theories...challenging people to prove a negative as means to validate the theory. I prefer to deal with the immediate subject at hand.

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
So you agree that the current administration is spearheading this hysteria?

then what am I "coming around" to in your opinion, in relation to the OP?

[Taichiliberal]

YOUR OPINION of Trumps performance is not a substitute for reality. In truth, they are lunatic rants at best. You should see a mental health professional about that severe case of TDS.

Here's what we do know; the PHONY media and the Party of the Jackass want this to bring down the economy and with it, Trump. Pretending this isn't a fact makes you look partisan and stupid.

Sorry to inform you, but the following isn't opinion:

All the President’s Lies About the Coronavirus
An unfinished compendium of Trump’s overwhelming dishonesty during a national emergency
Christian Paz
March 24, 2020

On the Nature of the Virus
When: Friday, February 7, and Wednesday, February 19
The claim: The coronavirus would weaken “when we get into April, in the warmer weather—that has a very negative effect on that, and that type of a virus.”
The truth: It’s too early to tell if the virus’s spread will be dampened by warmer conditions. Respiratory viruses can be seasonal, but the World Health Organization says that the new coronavirus “can be transmitted in ALL AREAS, including areas with hot and humid weather.”

When: Thursday, February 27
The claim: The outbreak would be temporary: “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.”
The truth: Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned days later that he was concerned that “as the next week or two or three go by, we’re going to see a lot more community-related cases.”


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...avirus/608647/

Now you can deny the quotes, but not the actual video recordings: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-advertisement

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Low in comparison to the fatality rate of previous flu seasons in this time frame. I'm not diminishing death or it's effects of surviving family and friends...I'm pointing to the fact that this virus (while nothing to ignore) is NOT the bubonic plague of the 21st century.

It is quite serious for those threatened, and allows a fair prospect for our masters of establishing a police state. Dealing with it seriously, and fast, is really the only hope, and that posturing senile bully of yours is doing nothing useful whatever.

[Earl]

It is quite serious for those threatened, and allows a fair prospect for our masters of establishing a police state. Dealing with it seriously, and fast, is really the only hope, and that posturing senile bully of yours is doing nothing useful whatever.

Sit down and be quiet, America hating Nazi pende*o.

[Phantasmal]

It is quite serious for those threatened, and allows a fair prospect for our masters of establishing a police state. Dealing with it seriously, and fast, is really the only hope, and that posturing senile bully of yours is doing nothing useful whatever.

And what he does do is at a snail’s pace.

[Earl]

And what he does do is at a snail’s pace.

When the president acted quickly to stop immigration from China, was that at a snail’s pace?

The left castigated him for this but, as usual, the president was right and you all were wrong.

[moon]

When the president acted quickly to stop immigration from China, was that at a snail’s pace?

The left castigated him for this but, as usual, the president was right and you all were wrong.

Dumbass- President Virus presides over the most infected country in the world.

[Irish]

then what am I "coming around" to in your opinion, in relation to the OP?

That this hysteria is overblown.

[ExpressLane]

While I AM NOT saying that precautions shouldn't be taken regarding Covid-19, I can't help but look at the sheer numbers and come to the conclusion that the vast majority of the near hysteria prompted by our state and local governments is over-rated. Check this out:


A state-by-state breakdown of US coronavirus cases



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-...0FUz1?ocid=sf2

I'm willing to discuss this rationally with anyone who is willing to put grudges aside.

We are early on in this pandemic. The R naught of this virus is 1.8 to 2.2 and the death rate is around 1%, The flu's R naught is 1.0-1.3 and the death rate is 0.1%. If we do nothing this virus will infect about 50% more and kill about 10 times more of the people that get ill. We have 40 - 70 million people catch the flu each year. And we have antivirals and vaccines that will treat the flu. We could have 60-100 million or more people catch COVID19 if we do nothing. Currently we have no approved treatment for the COVID 19 virus. Italy's death rate is 7.2% and the US death rate is about 1%. Why the HUGE difference? Italy's medical system has been overwhelmed more than 45 doctors and nurses have died fighting the disease. Italy's population is 1/5 that of the US if we convert that to the US population size. We could expect 250 doctor's and nurses in the US to die if our health care system get overwhelmed like Italy's did. You can directly attribute our lower death rate so far to the efforts of our government to combat the spread and to the heroic efforts of our medical community to fight this virus. THIS ISN'T OVER YET FOR ITALY OR FOR THE US. Do what you can to inhibit the spread of COVID 19 the life you save may be your own.

[Iolo/Penderyn]

The incredible history of Trump's outpourings on Convid 19 combined with his apparent popularity suggests that the extreme-right control of news for the trumpers is near-total. How much do you think the average American actually knows what is going on?

[ExpressLane]

Dumbass- President Virus presides over the most infected country in the world.

With one of the lowest death rates in the world. The US is 6th in total deaths behind Italy , Spain, China, Iran , France. If we remove China who has a larger population than the US every other country on the list has smaller population and more deaths. In as a couple of days ago the numbers were for a total population of 258 million people Italy, Spain, Iran , France have 17,710 deaths and the US s for population of 330 million people has 1301 deaths. So President Virus is doing a decent job leading the country. Stop bucking him until this crisis is over because the life he saves just might be yours.